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Anthony
January 22, 2003 05:29AM
<HTML>John,

Well, I must say, I read the entire article with great anticipation only to find out that nowhere does it include the promised instructions: "How to become a Psychic in one day".

What I saw was the confession of a man who told how he learned to FOOL people into THINKING he was a real psychic. This is an entirely different scenario, and frankly, I'm a little disappointed. Oh, I'm not disappointed with <i>you</i>, John. Just with people in general who would "fall" for such chicanery.

This article, however, has no more scientific merit than someone who "claims" they know how the pyramids COULD have been built, but lacks any/all evidence that it WAS built that way. Unless the author is actually "busting" phony psychics specifically by name and action, then all he's proving is that he has discovered a way to fool people. Nothing more.

His article/work/methodology do absolutely nothing to "prove" that SOME psychics/diviners/readers are NOT real. He's only shown that HE isn't. I congratulate him on his honesty... but also question his ethics. He DID present himself as a "psychic intuitor", which definitely implied that he was going to use some form of psychic powers that he actually possessed to talk to these people. He then wantonly mislead them, in a manner no better than any Hancock or Davidovits presentation.

Now... PLEASE don't get me wrong. I fully accept that the bulk of "money for info psychics" out there are absolute bunko artists who scam and flimflam people out of enormous amounts of money. I also know several who do a lot to help people understand the dynamics of their own situations, without telling people that they are seeing "the future". And I know a very few who are actually gifted with genuine psi powers that absolutely cannot be explained away. This article exposes the first group... but at the expense of the other two, who provide perfectly valid and proper services to people, when possible.

Technically, this article is no better than someone claiming Stocks and Solenhofen are dead wrong about lapidary processes because HE tried it for fifteen minutes and it didn't work. There is much, much more to this topic than would be appropriate for this board, and to just "schloff" it all off as scams and mumbo-jumbo is really a disservice to proper scientific methodological research.

Sorry, John, but it is your post that is mislabeled and promises what it does not deliver. Still, a good read, and an excellent example of pseudoscience... on the part of Michael Shermer.

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Subject Author Posted

How to Become a Psychic in One Day

John Wall January 20, 2003 11:54AM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

Joe_S January 20, 2003 03:16PM

Sorry, John

Joe_S January 21, 2003 12:11AM

Re: Sorry, John

John Wall January 21, 2003 04:09AM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

Tman January 20, 2003 03:57PM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

Katherine Reece January 20, 2003 04:52PM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

Garrett January 20, 2003 05:54PM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

Katherine Reece January 20, 2003 08:58PM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

Joe_S January 21, 2003 12:19AM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

Bryan January 20, 2003 08:19PM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

Tman January 20, 2003 05:39PM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

Joanne Conman January 20, 2003 07:24PM

Re: How to Become a Psychic in One Day

lone January 20, 2003 07:02PM

Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 20, 2003 07:17PM

Re: Proving once and for all

John Wall January 20, 2003 07:23PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 20, 2003 07:25PM

Re: Proving once and for all

John Wall January 20, 2003 07:26PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 20, 2003 07:52PM

Re: Proving once and for all

John Wall January 21, 2003 04:11AM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 21, 2003 08:10AM

Re: Proving once and for all

John Wall (aka 'Dipstick') January 21, 2003 08:17AM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 21, 2003 01:12PM

Re: Proving once and for all

John Wall January 21, 2003 01:20PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 21, 2003 02:13PM

Re: Proving once and for all

John Wall January 21, 2003 02:26PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 21, 2003 02:38PM

Re: Proving once and for all

John Wall January 21, 2003 02:43PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Michael Lehmann January 21, 2003 02:52PM

:-)))) n/t

Joanne Conman January 21, 2003 04:14PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Sophie January 21, 2003 09:43PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 22, 2003 10:28AM

Re: Proving once and for all

Sophie January 22, 2003 12:19PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 22, 2003 04:56PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Sophie January 22, 2003 06:23PM

Part 2

Sophie January 22, 2003 04:18PM

Re: Part 2

Joanne Conman January 22, 2003 04:38PM

Re: Part 2

Sophie January 22, 2003 06:25PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Tman January 21, 2003 11:05AM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 21, 2003 01:08PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Tman January 21, 2003 01:31PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 21, 2003 02:34PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Tman January 21, 2003 02:20PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Tman January 21, 2003 04:06PM

Re: Proving once and for all

Joanne Conman January 21, 2003 05:16PM

False advertising...

Anthony January 22, 2003 05:29AM

Re: False advertising...

John Wall January 22, 2003 06:07AM

Re: False advertising...

Anthony January 22, 2003 06:28AM

Re: False advertising...

John Wall January 22, 2003 06:34AM

Re: False advertising...

Anthony January 22, 2003 06:42AM

ps

Anthony January 22, 2003 06:44AM

Re: ps

John Wall January 22, 2003 06:55AM

Now hold on a minute...

Anthony January 22, 2003 07:02AM

Re: Now hold on a minute...

John Wall January 22, 2003 07:11AM

Re: Now hold on a minute...

Anthony January 22, 2003 07:21AM

Re: Now hold on a minute...

John Wall January 22, 2003 07:27AM

Again?

Anthony January 22, 2003 07:34AM

Re: Again?

John Wall January 22, 2003 08:04AM

Re: Again?

Anthony January 22, 2003 09:22AM

Re: Again?

John Wall January 22, 2003 09:28AM

LOL

Anthony January 22, 2003 10:08AM

Re: LOL

John Wall January 22, 2003 10:13AM

Okay

Anthony January 22, 2003 10:21AM

You're simplistic n/t

John Wall January 22, 2003 10:26AM

Thank you.

Anthony January 22, 2003 10:27AM

Re: Proving once and for all

Tman January 22, 2003 10:30AM

I agree.

Anthony January 22, 2003 10:58AM

Re: Proving once and for all

Tman January 22, 2003 10:37AM

Re: I agree.

Tman January 22, 2003 11:11AM

I'm definitely not imagining it...

Anthony January 22, 2003 02:58PM

Re: I'm definitely not imagining it...

Stephen Tonkin January 22, 2003 03:16PM

Re: I'm definitely not imagining it...

Anthony January 22, 2003 03:21PM

Corrected Response for Joanne-

Tman January 22, 2003 11:15AM

Re: Corrected Response for Joanne-

Joanne Conman January 22, 2003 04:19PM

Re: I'm definitely not imagining it...

Tman January 22, 2003 04:34PM

Again, Tim...

Anthony January 23, 2003 11:51AM

Re: Corrected Response for Joanne-

Tman January 22, 2003 05:11PM

Re: Corrected Response for Joanne-

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 12:59PM

Re: Corrected Response for Joanne-

Tman January 23, 2003 01:19PM

Re: Corrected Response for Joanne-

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 02:17PM

The perfect label...

Anthony January 23, 2003 02:35PM

Re: The perfect label...

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 02:38PM

Re: The perfect label...

Anthony January 23, 2003 02:51PM

Umm Anthony

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 03:52PM

Re: Umm Anthony

Anthony January 23, 2003 03:59PM

Re: Umm Anthony

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 04:04PM

Bingo... my bad

Anthony January 23, 2003 04:08PM

Re: Again, Tim...

Tman January 23, 2003 02:09PM

Re: Again, Tim...

Anthony January 23, 2003 02:48PM

Re: Again, Tim...

Sophie January 23, 2003 03:06PM

Beautiful

Anthony January 23, 2003 03:14PM

You mean Young and RubiCON?

Sophie January 23, 2003 03:35PM

I smell...

Anthony January 23, 2003 03:39PM

No you don't!

Sophie January 23, 2003 03:45PM

Read TWICE. Post ONCE!

Anthony January 23, 2003 03:47PM

Learning things the hard way.....

Tman January 23, 2003 03:23PM

Fellow coyotes...

Sophie January 23, 2003 03:30PM

(licking lips)

Anthony January 23, 2003 03:36PM

:-) n/t

Sophie January 23, 2003 03:39PM

Re: Fellow coyotes...

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 03:44PM

ROFL!!

Sophie January 23, 2003 03:50PM

Pre-date...

Sophie January 23, 2003 03:51PM

then all we need to do is

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 03:57PM

Re: then all we need to do is

Anthony January 23, 2003 03:59PM

Re: then all we need to do is

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 04:07PM

Re: Learning things the hard way.....

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 03:42PM

Re: (licking lips)

Tman January 23, 2003 03:45PM

Not YOU!

Anthony January 23, 2003 03:54PM

Re: (licking lips)

Sophie January 23, 2003 04:03PM

Re: (licking lips)

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 04:10PM

For Tim

Joanne Conman January 23, 2003 04:17PM

Tim, Joanne

Sophie January 23, 2003 04:44PM

Oops...

Sophie January 23, 2003 04:49PM

Hey... you read my mind!

Anthony January 23, 2003 04:52PM

I know, I know...

Sophie January 23, 2003 05:02PM

Re: (licking lips)

Tman January 23, 2003 04:10PM

Re: (licking lips)

Sophie January 23, 2003 04:24PM



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