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May 30, 2024, 6:43 am UTC    
July 21, 2011 04:33PM
I think this misses the point in reference to the Mormons. It has not a thing to do with any Mormon scripts whether "Reformed Egyptian" [en.wikipedia.org] or the Deseret alphabet. [en.wikipedia.org] These would not be used to "fake" an inscription because they would be a dead giveaway. Ancient inscriptions were being discovered in the Near East from the mid 1800's and early 1900's which would have been known to an educated Mormon or Mormon fundamentalist (polygamist). We have of course discussed the multiple Samaritan Decalogue inscriptions published during this time which could have been used to construct the language of the Los Lunas Inscription. There is also the Moabite Stone discovered in 1868 in Jordon and written in the "Moabite language in the old Phoenician alphabet". [en.wikipedia.org] Though not a Decalogue it very well could have captured the imagination of certain Mormons of the era as the stone has the same name as the city of Moab in South eastern Utah.

Here is an article from the Maxwell Institute BYU which may help explain why some Mormons zealots may have been eager to manufacture proof that the Hebrews were indeed in America before Columbus.

I have excerpted two paragraphs.

"Let us consider the anti-Mormon position first. If Joseph Smith made the book up, then its peoples did not exist, its events did not happen, and there should be no trace of them anywhere. If, after a reasonable period of diligent searching, material evidence is not found, then the Book of Mormon would be shown to be imaginary, and by implication Joseph Smith would be exposed as a liar and the church he founded unveiled as a hoax.

The Latter-day Saint position is the near opposite. Confirmation of historic details of the Book of Mormon would substantiate Joseph Smith's account of how it came to be and thus validate his seership and the divine origin of both the book and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This brings us to the astonishing possibility of being able to test Joseph Smith's claims through science, a possibility that critics have long tried to exploit. The Book of Mormon is the keystone of Mormonism; destroy this stone and all that it supports will come crashing down. Given the stakes involved, the very possibility of testing the book's historicity and authenticity becomes a moral obligation to do so."
[maxwellinstitute.byu.edu]



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Samaritan Decalogue Inscription from 1883

Greg Reeder July 17, 2011 11:11PM

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Another Samaritan Decalogue 1907 publication

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Crypto Jews ?

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Why Mormons?

Greg Reeder July 21, 2011 04:33PM

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Jammer July 25, 2011 07:18AM

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Katherine Reece July 21, 2011 01:35PM

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Greg Reeder July 19, 2011 04:50PM

And he was right there..........

Katherine Reece July 20, 2011 06:16PM

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Greg Reeder July 20, 2011 08:05PM

Re: And he was right there..........

Jammer July 21, 2011 10:08AM

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Greg Reeder July 22, 2011 01:11AM

Here it is

Greg Reeder July 22, 2011 02:31AM

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donald r raab July 22, 2011 06:42PM

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donald r raab July 22, 2011 09:32PM

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Katherine Reece July 24, 2011 10:36AM

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Greg Reeder July 24, 2011 05:35PM

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Roxana Cooper July 24, 2011 10:01AM

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Sirfiroth July 22, 2011 09:39PM

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Sirfiroth July 24, 2011 11:59PM

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Roxana Cooper July 25, 2011 12:47PM

First published document of Los Lunas Inscription?

Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 01:05PM

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Hermione July 25, 2011 04:29PM

Sirfiroth?

Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 05:10PM

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Hermione July 25, 2011 05:33PM

For the record

Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 05:41PM

America B.C.- Fell

Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 06:42PM

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More for the record

Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 07:01PM

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Sirfiroth July 25, 2011 05:38PM

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Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 05:43PM

Pfeiffer and Velikovsky ?

Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 05:57PM

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Sirfiroth July 25, 2011 06:14PM

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Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 06:16PM

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donald r raab July 26, 2011 12:06AM

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Roxana Cooper July 26, 2011 08:33AM

This is the paper we need

Greg Reeder July 26, 2011 01:05AM

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Roxana Cooper July 26, 2011 08:29AM

Moderation request - sub-thread closed

Hermione July 26, 2011 08:49AM

Re: Pfeiffer and Velikovsky ?

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Re: Sirfiroth?

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Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 06:13PM

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Hermione July 26, 2011 03:47AM

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Hermione July 26, 2011 04:22AM

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Roxana Cooper July 26, 2011 08:36AM

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Roxana Cooper July 25, 2011 05:56PM

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donald r raab July 25, 2011 11:07PM

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Roxana Cooper July 26, 2011 08:38AM

Complete list of Pfeiffer's papers

Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 06:01PM

Hold the phone!

Katherine Reece July 25, 2011 06:12PM

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Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 06:14PM

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Katherine Reece July 26, 2011 11:32AM

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Sirfiroth July 25, 2011 06:22PM

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Jammer July 26, 2011 11:41AM

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Sam July 22, 2011 07:31PM

Tabor in 2002

Greg Reeder July 25, 2011 08:17PM

New Mexico prehistoric weather (updated)

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Hans July 26, 2011 12:43AM

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Roxana Cooper July 26, 2011 08:42AM

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Greg Reeder July 26, 2011 04:28PM

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Roxana Cooper July 26, 2011 03:10PM

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Greg Reeder July 26, 2011 04:27PM

Doug Weller ?

Greg Reeder July 26, 2011 12:24PM

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Doug Weller July 26, 2011 02:57PM

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Roxana Cooper July 26, 2011 08:47AM

Ruins on Hidden Mountain (Los Lunas)

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Greg Reeder July 26, 2011 07:45PM

**Thread closed - Please open up new threads**

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