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January 12, 2011 09:01AM
donald r raab Wrote:
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> Your post answers its own question. if sagas and
> myths and don't rattle the closet are what they
> are don't waste time and look. End result sagas
> stay sagas and mythology mythology.

Which isn't what my post stated at all. Numerous myths and sagas *have* proven out when the evidince accumulated. However, with the exception of biblical archaeologists and the like, the majority of research doesn't begin with a legend, it just sometimes ends up proving the validity of a legend.

Typically only part of the legend/myth is proven, like a seed grain, and the rest is proven hyperbole, reenforcing the idea that one shouldn't start with it as one doesn't know which part is truth or fiction. That, and only some myths end being proven, many others are disproven. Consider folk remedies versus medical science of the past 200 years... Most folk remedies were provably hogwash. A very select few actually came out to the forefront and were 'proven' efficacious. And in the case of at least one, the 'why' wasn't even understood for a *very* long time.

>
> And you might look over that link on the copper
> thread from Doug's site. About the same kind of
> attitude involving Valsequillo and early entry let
> alone contact between the new and old.
> Embarassing.

Embarassing?? You sure you want to use that word?

>
> And I latched on to your original post about the
> study of the head itself by Smith because that too
> demonstrates the difference between skeptical and
> prove at all costs that it can't therefore it
> isn't.

My post asked for additional references after citing the ones I could find. I'm not sure how you got that out what I posted.

> As i've said for years it is the smug,put off
> proven beyond a shadow of a doubt BEFORE the
> evidence is in attitude of the mainstream
> gatekeepers that doesn't get it for me.

This I have not seen, other than the rare pompous academician. Usually, if you try to pin any of them down to an absolute beyond the observable facts, they start backpedaling and filling in disclaimers.

Which, for the record, is quite proper in my opinion.

And
> before everybody comes flying back whith claims of
> insult and broad brush labeling it is NOT broad
> brush. Most archeological types I've worked with
> are the most open minded people one could meet.
> Unfortunately that majority does NOT set the
> agenda.

<Confusion>

In a field of peer reviewed journals and consensus history writing, how is that the open minded majority doesn't set the agenda?

Perhaps the subset of those 'archeological' types you've worked with are in the minority?
Perhaps they are the liberal minority as compared to some alleged conservative majority?

Or perhaps, irregardless of openmindedness, a certain discipline and adherence to the dogma of observed facts results in instant challenge and questioning of anything that would change the majority view?

And you would say this is a bad thing? perhaps every theory should be held up and supported equally and taught equally and it shoulnd't be the 'it was this way' but rather a 'It might have been this way, or this way, or this way' out about a hundred times?

Perhaps such an approach, if you include all supporting evidence for each view, might teach critical thinking, but it would seem to just teach confusion instead in my humble opinion.

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