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May 14, 2024, 1:09 am UTC    
January 26, 2007 09:42AM
I'm not an Egyptologist, however I am an anthropologist.

Joe Schiller Wrote:
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> You misunderstand me. The Egyptians were a
> masculinist culture, which can be seen from their
> veneration of order (the Hall of Ma’at).

The Egyptians would not have seen themselves this way. You need to make it clear that this is your interpretation of a perceived duality of thought among them (with some references to back it up.) Otherwise, you'll be accused of Eurocentricism, which really weakens any of your discussion.

> This is
> not about individuals, this is about the culture.
> We are masculinist in the West, which can be seen
> from our belief in creativity. Masculinist
> cultures invariably have male supreme deities.

Again, I think you need to make it clear that this is your own idea and definition. Creativity/arts is often considered a female aspect in European culture (cf the nine muses and modern references to a female muse, etc.)

> If you, as a rival nation, visited Egypt in
> Rameses time, you would have been intimidated.

So you're saying that the architecture of the time would have caused them to yawn (and the colossal statues as well) but they're suddenly going into a state of "shock and awe" over a pyramid? By the time of Ramses, Egypt has had a lot of foreign diplomats and traders and visitors in the country. They've heard of these things and (arguably) seen them ever since the first one was built.

And suddenly they're going into "shock and awe" over something they knew was there all along?

> If you were Imhotep the Pharaoh’s architect, I
> think you would have been inspired. If the
> pyramid inspired him to build a better temple, it
> would have performed a creative act.

I'm not following this. Imhotep was the one who "invented" pyramids.

> As I tried to make clear, masculinists worship the
> sun in some sense, even us. Feminists in this
> sense worship the earth. Actually, since the
> earth and therefor the goddess is material, the
> god is immaterial, since he is in all respects the
> opposite.

I believe this is again, Western (and impacted by the Christian religion) thinking. As far as I'm aware, the ancients that viewed the sun as a deity also pictured him as either going across the heavens carrying a torch or driving in some sort of shining vehicle... hardly immaterial.
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