Effendi Wrote:
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> It is all about about a global catastrophe that is
> supposed to happen. I'm a bit aware of the
> astronomy and I know this is probably impossible,
> but I would like you to tell me if what I provide
> is complete nonsense or truth.

I think I can give you some help, here.

The "disaster in 2012" is a modern concept that grew up after the 1950's and started growing in intensity in the late 1970's-1980's. The current one started after the world failed to come to an end over Y2K.

2012 comes from the year that the Mayan calendar ended. When a great "spiritual enlightenment and world changes" failed to happen in 1969, 1975, 1978, 2000 (and other years I've forgotten), the next logical "global changes" time is the one that occurs when the Mayan calendar runs out.

This was a ceremonial calendar, and while the Mayans had a good calendar of the cycles of Venus and the moon, they didn't manage to predict the end of their own civilization. This hasn't prevented people in our civilization from being Absolutly Sure that the calendar predicts the end of the world/polar shifts/rising of Atlantis/etc, etc.


> There is a guy called Patrick Geryl, he says that
> he found a direct proof that Egyptians were aware
> of a global cataclysm that happened before and is
> going to take place again in 2012.

The Egyptians weren't interested in things that were to take place 5,000 years in their future.

> He of course
> links Egypt and Maya to Atlantis, between them.

There is no evidence that Atlantis existed. The time of the pharoahs was about 3,000 BC to around 100 BC. The Mayan civilization began its rise about 300 AD and ended around 1500 AD... so there was no contact


> like all of his
> sort. I will provide you some links about what he
> claims to have found in Giza. Please read that and
> tell me if it considered to be true by any
> reliable archeologist. The first link is about a
> superlabirynth under the pyramids:

I am suspicious of this book of Herodotus' that "suddenly" turned up. I'm even more suspicious that it runs 700 pages. It also makes the claim that "When multiplying the planets with this number it gives 7 x 36 = 252".

Seven planets? That would be Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune. I don't find any evidence that the Egyptians had names for Uranus or Neptune (or Pluto, either.) I would call that suspiciously bad science.

The Herodotus translation shows the same word pattern as the writer of the website. I find that suspicious, too. There seems to be no reference to an observatory called "circle of gold" -- there certainly isn't any in published papers (http://scholar.google.com) that I find.

> Could it be true? Is there any evidence?

Evidence points to him or someone else making this all up.

> This man thinks he has found a full map of stars
> in the sky in Egypt, but they don't match the sky
> seen from Egypt, so he claims that the Earth has
> gone through total reverse. This is total garbage
> from scientific point of view, but I would like to
> know whether Egyptians really could have thought
> so.

No. At the time (according to scholars), Egyptians believed that the Earth was kind of shield shaped and had a limitless ocean around it. We don't have that many of their star maps around, but other evidence of the ancients (ancient astronomical observatories as well as solar markers (henges, etc) show that the sun's always risen right where it had. Furthermore, if the Egyptians had known it, those obsessive star fanatics (the Sumerians and Babylonians) would have recorded this folk knowledge.

They didn't.

And nobody would have missed the sudden reversal of the direction of the sun's rising (not to mention that the planet would still be rolling over and over and over. Inertia means it wouldn't flip just once and then stop.)

> any astronomer or another scientist would say it's
> wrong. And it's obvious that it's wrong.

Yes, it is.
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Author Patrick Geryl came to the staggering conclusion that the Earth will soon be subjected to an immense disaster.
The cause: upheavals in the sun's magnetic fields will generate gigantic solar flares that will affect the polarity of the entire Earth.
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He's apparently unaware that we've gone through solar magnetic changes and they weren't the cause of polar reversals.

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The result: our magnetic field will reverse all at once, with catastrophic consequences for humanity.
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But it hasn't before. Or for any other lifeforms that lived through other magnetic polar reversals. There've been quite a few of them (20, if memory serves.)


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Massive earthquakes will demolish all buildings on the planet, and instigate colossal tsunamis and intense volcanic activity. In fact, the Earth's crust will shift, sweeping continents thousands of miles away from their present positions.
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Again, it didn't happen the last many times that our poles reversed. It's not going to happen just because homo sapiens has developed computer technology.

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There is ample evidence in the literature of ancient civilizations that such disasters have occured in the past and also clues that they knew when another such calamity would occur. The Dresden Codex of the Maya for instance, contains the secrets of the sunspot cycle, about which our modern astronomers know almost nothing!
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And here he has gotten ahold of some bad information. In fact, the literature of ancient civilizations don't talk about those things. The Mayans and Aztecs were good observers and had good tables of observations, but they weren't as superbly accurate as the "OHMYGOD! 2012!!!" group would like you to believe.


> But I'd
> like you to concentrate on the Egyptian aspect in
> it. I'd like to know whether Egyptians really ever
> mentioned something about sunspot cycles and in
> general bigger cycles of the sun. And did they
> really draw a map of the skies which they wouldn't
> be able to see from where they lived?

No, and no.

But if you tell people they did, you can sell a bunch of books.