January 19, 2006 07:15PM
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Principia wrote-If we are taught better the ways of science and its methods, then alternative ideas need not be attacked under the auspice of obtuse verve. Poeple would be better armed to see the errors for themselves.
Well speaking as someone who has received some scientific training,and been around a lot of scientist, I can say that scientists aren't anymore objective or fairminded than anybody else on the face of the planet. In fact they can be dismissive, thunderingly intolerant and unbelievably close minded as anybody else.
"Poeple would be better armed to see the errors for themselves."
Actually the revese happened with me. I began to see the errors in their results. I saw how a dozen different experiments using the identical equipment could give a dozen different results. I heard PhD's say that the results of many experiments are "cherry picked" to support the hypothesis and results that contradict it are discarded and so forth and so on. I heard vague rumors of a "scientific establishment" and anything that veered to far outside the establishment dogma was never published, jobs were given to someone else, grants were never given, promotions were blocked. In other words tow the line, or else.
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