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May 15, 2024, 9:00 pm UTC    
September 27, 2004 04:13PM
Steve LeMaster wrote:

"Geologist have calculated that the Grand Canyon is 6
million years old. Due to the fact that it is 6,000
feet deep from its deepest point, this indicates for
every one million years the rock erodes 1,000 feet.
So, for every year over the past 6 million years,
the Colorado River has eroded the bedrock .001 feet,
or .12 inches per year.

Using the Grand Canyon as a model, it would take 3,000
years to erode three feet and 6,000 years to erode
six feet in the Sphinx enclosure."

This is a completely meaningless comparison as types
of erosional processes acting in the Grand Canyon are
quite different and more varied from those those
occurring in the Giza Plateau and they are acting
on a variety of different types that are also quite
different from those found in the Giza Plateau and
being controled by varying climatic conditions. This
comparison is also scientifically invalid as the rate
of erosion in the Grand Canyon has varied so much
over the last six million years, as the various
environmental factors, i.e. stream flow, climate,
and others have changed, to the point of rendering
the average value of erosion a rather meaningless
number. It is impossible to use the Grand Canyon as
a model for Sphinx erosion because the overall lack
of any similarity in climate, rock types, and
erosional processes involved.

Unless the rock type, climate, and environmental
setting, for which the weathering data is collected,
is very similar or identical to that of the Sphinx,
it is quite nonsensical to use it in a scientific
discussion of the age of the Sphinx. Also, in order
to use weathering rates to date something, a person
must demonstrate that the rates of weathering have
remained constant over the period of time in question.
This is a problem as small variations in environmental
conditions can cause large changes in weathering rates
to the point of truning any such calculations into
exercises in boring fiction.

Yours,

Paul
Baton Rouge, LA

Subject Author Posted

Tables of Erosion Rates

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 02:03PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Warwick L Nixon September 27, 2004 02:36PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 03:38PM

Meaningless Comparison

Paul H. September 27, 2004 04:13PM

Re: Meaningless Comparison

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 04:20PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 04:23PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 04:25PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 04:28PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 04:31PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 04:38PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 04:40PM

Bear this in mind though.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 04:45PM

Re: Bear this in mind though.

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 05:05PM

Re: Bear this in mind though.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 05:25PM

Re: Bear this in mind though.

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 05:33PM

Ah! I see.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 05:40PM

Re: Ah! I see.

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 05:47PM

my question

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 06:17AM

Re: my question

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 06:29AM

Re: my question

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 06:32AM

Re: my question

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 06:43AM

Re: my question

Anthony September 28, 2004 01:56PM

Re: Ah! I see.

Anthony September 28, 2004 01:49PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Archae Solenhofen September 28, 2004 12:01AM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 02:13AM

Thanks Archae...

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 06:20AM

Wait a minute!

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 06:50AM

Re: Wait a minute!

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 07:06AM

Re: Wait a minute!

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 07:17AM

Re: Wait a minute!

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 07:34AM

A complex answer for a complex question

Anthony September 28, 2004 01:36PM

Dear Mr Smurf

Warwick L Nixon September 28, 2004 10:27AM

The Mississippi bedrock as a model.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 03:44PM

Re: The Mississippi bedrock as a model.

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 04:31PM

The Mindless Mississippi Model

Paul H. September 27, 2004 07:21PM

Re: The Mindless Mississippi Model

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 07:31PM

Re: Not An Ad Homonim Because It is Mindless

Paul H. September 27, 2004 08:09PM

Ok. I can respond to that.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 08:42PM

Re: Ok. I can respond to that.

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 06:29AM

Interesting.

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 06:40AM

Re: Interesting.

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 06:59AM

Re: Interesting.

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 07:04AM

Re: Interesting.

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 07:07AM

Re: Interesting.

Anthony September 28, 2004 10:08AM

Jawache 101

Warwick L Nixon September 28, 2004 10:18AM

Incidentally

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 09:11PM

Conclusion...

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 04:17PM

Addendum.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 04:49PM

Re: Addendum.

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 05:13PM

Re: Addendum.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 05:35PM

Re: Addendum.

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 05:40PM

Re: Addendum.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 05:43PM

Re: Addendum.

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 05:44PM

Re: Addendum.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 05:46PM

Re: Addendum.

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 05:49PM

argumentum ad ignorantiam

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 06:11PM

Re: Addendum.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 06:22PM

N/T This is for Paul H. as well.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 07:03PM

Re: This is for Paul H. as well.

Paul H. September 27, 2004 07:40PM

How dare you!

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 07:46PM

Note to thread.........

Katherine Reece September 27, 2004 09:49PM

I Screwed Up was "Re: How dare you!"

Paul H. September 28, 2004 02:00PM

Re: This is for Paul H. as well.

Paul H. September 28, 2004 12:41PM

I don't know would have sufficed, Paul.

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 02:16PM

Re: I don't know would have sufficed, Paul.

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 02:25PM

Re: I don't know would have sufficed, Paul.

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 02:44PM

I can sense that you are...

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 06:32PM

N/T Where'd ya go!?

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 06:44PM

Moderation Note

Katherine Reece September 27, 2004 09:52PM

Re: Conclusion...

Anthony September 28, 2004 09:55AM

Conclusion Refuted

Paul H. September 28, 2004 01:53PM

Addendum

Anthony September 28, 2004 01:58PM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

Gerd VDC September 27, 2004 04:27PM

No.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 04:32PM

Proving the flaw

Anthony September 27, 2004 06:49PM

Those are not Schoch's rates

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 06:52PM

And what flaw?

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 07:02PM

Simple Texan ??? alert

lobo-hotei September 27, 2004 07:22PM

Re: Simple Texan ??? alert

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 07:36PM

Re: Simple Texan ??? alert

lobo-hotei September 27, 2004 07:59PM

It's simple math.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 08:00PM

Correction: It's simplistic math

Anthony September 28, 2004 11:27AM

Re: And what flaw?

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 06:35AM

Re: And what flaw?

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 06:43AM

Re: And what flaw?

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 07:00AM

How detached!

Warwick L Nixon September 28, 2004 10:12AM

Re: How detached!

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 02:17PM

You ARE mistaken.

Warwick L Nixon September 29, 2004 12:07PM

Re: You ARE mistaken.

Steve LeMaster September 29, 2004 12:12PM

Re: You ARE mistaken.

Warwick L Nixon September 29, 2004 12:18PM

Re: You ARE mistaken.

Steve LeMaster September 29, 2004 12:19PM

Re: You ARE mistaken.

Warwick L Nixon September 29, 2004 12:34PM

Re: And what flaw?

Anthony September 28, 2004 09:14AM

Re: And what flaw?

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 02:18PM

Re: And what flaw?

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 02:33PM

Re: And what flaw?

Anthony September 28, 2004 03:07PM

I emailed you

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 03:10PM

Thank you.

Anthony September 28, 2004 03:12PM

Re: Thank you.

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 03:16PM

Re: Thank you.

Anthony September 28, 2004 04:03PM

Re: Thank you.

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 04:12PM

The flaw is obvious.

Anthony September 28, 2004 10:35AM

and the omissions glaring

Warwick L Nixon September 28, 2004 10:44AM

Thanks Anthony...

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 11:14AM

Thank you, Gerd.

Anthony September 28, 2004 11:21AM

From jawest.

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 08:34PM

Moderation Note

Katherine Reece September 27, 2004 09:12PM

I told him....

Steve LeMaster September 27, 2004 09:14PM

The tactics of John Anthony West

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 06:52AM

Re: The tactics of John Anthony West

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 06:54AM

Re: The tactics of John Anthony West

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 07:02AM

Re: The tactics of John Anthony West

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 07:29AM

Re: The tactics of John Anthony West

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 07:36AM

Try as you all might....

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 02:53PM

What are you talking about?

Anthony September 28, 2004 03:17PM

Re: What are you talking about?

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 03:35PM

Re: What are you talking about?

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 03:40PM

Not acceptable.

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 03:44PM

Re: Not acceptable.

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 03:52PM

Re: Not acceptable.

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 03:57PM

addendum

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 04:02PM

Re: addendum

Steve LeMaster September 28, 2004 04:10PM

Re: addendum

Gerd VDC September 28, 2004 04:34PM

Re: What are you talking about?

Pete Clarke September 29, 2004 04:59AM

Great post, Pete. Thanks. N/T

Gerd VDC September 29, 2004 05:58AM

Well said, Pete

Anthony September 29, 2004 06:27AM

Acceptable

Steve LeMaster September 29, 2004 06:55AM

Re: Acceptable

Anthony September 29, 2004 07:03AM

Hmmmm.....

Steve LeMaster September 29, 2004 07:09AM

Re: Hmmmm.....

Gerd VDC September 29, 2004 07:15AM

n/t I'll email you my response...It's not appropriate to post it here.

Steve LeMaster September 29, 2004 07:19AM

Re: Acceptable

Pete Clarke September 29, 2004 07:21AM

Thanks!

Steve LeMaster September 29, 2004 07:23AM

Re: Thanks!

Pete Clarke September 29, 2004 08:41AM

Re: Acceptable

Warwick L Nixon September 30, 2004 09:21AM

But then...

Warwick L Nixon September 30, 2004 09:27AM

Re: Acceptable

Pete Clarke September 30, 2004 09:28AM

Re: Acceptable

Warwick L Nixon September 30, 2004 10:01AM

Been there, done that.

Anthony September 30, 2004 10:17AM

Re: Been there, done that.

Pete Clarke September 30, 2004 10:29AM

Re: Been there, done that.

Anthony September 30, 2004 10:41AM

Re: Been there, done that.

Pete Clarke September 30, 2004 10:49AM

Re: Been there, done that.

Warwick L Nixon October 01, 2004 01:51PM

Re: Been there, done that.

Pete Clarke October 04, 2004 03:16AM

Re: Tables of Erosion Rates

John Wall October 03, 2004 04:52PM



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