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Anthony
December 12, 2003 12:16PM
<HTML>No need to speculate, Jim. Let's examine the <i>evidence</i>...




Jim Lewandowski wrote:
>
> Since we know:
>
> - alternatives sell more books than orthodoxy

That's a function of publicity. This factors in later on.



>
> - alternatives use as many out-of-date references they can to
> support their cherry-picking case


Doesn't have to be out of date to be cherry picked... but it usually helps make the sentences longer in the quote.




>
> - alternatives themselves KNOW their theory is bogus and not
> supported by evidence


Not always true. Where you see malice, I often see belief-driven stupidity. I'll control myself on dropping any names here...




>
> - alternatives know how orthodoxy feels about them (and the
> disservice they are performing)



Maybe...but they're far more interested in TELLING people how the "orthodoxy" feels about them. Which is funny... because anybody who takes the time to look can see there IS no "Orthodoxy"... there is only an orthodox METHOD. Can you tell me how the "method" feels about them? Can a "method" even have feelings?

of course not.



>
>
> Then WHY would any of them come here and post? It's not
> going to help them sell more books since regardless of
> whether their theory is supported by no valid evidence or
> not, the reader will likely believe it.

Ahhh... but there you are wrong. To them, every time they post to a messageboard, they are hoping to pick up one or two more "true beleivers" who will then go out to other sites and preach the Holy Word of the Historical Revisionist. It's like a virus that spread via the internet. In doing so...they do generate more site hits that hopefully translate into book sales.

Ever wonder why Margaret Morris spends so much time discussing Geopolymers around the internet?

Take a look at her autobiography:

<blockquote><center>About Margaret Morris </center>


Margaret Morris has been involved with research on the Egyptian pyramids since 1984, when she started her historical research at the Institute For Applied Archaeological Sciences (IAPAS). The IAPAS was founded by Dr. Joseph Davidovits in 1984 at Barry University, in Miami Shores, Florida, to advance worthwhile ancient technology and clarify certain nebulous areas of ancient history. For a number of years, Margaret served as the Assistant Director of the IAPAS. When this institution did not obtain anticipated funding and had to close its doors on-campus, she supported projects it had initiated with her own resources.

Margaret has debated the premise of her book THE EGYPTIAN PYRAMID MYSTERY IS SOLVED! in scientific and technical journals, including 'The Journal of Geological Education' (her published papers are included among the many on this topic found on the on-line catalogue of the Geopolymer Library of the Geopolymer Institute). Over the years, she has engaged in Egyptological research and organized scientific research so that THE EGYPTIAN PYRAMID MYSTERY IS SOLVED! offers proof of the theory advanced within its pages.</blockquote>

The institute is no such thing... it's Davidovits' own organization designed to promote his own books and theories.

And if you're wondering about the "virus" effect... take a look at the picture on <a href="[www.margaretmorrisbooks.com]; site</a>:

"Please come back often and invite your friends to visit this site".

What's most funny is when Davidovits got caught posting under multiple names on a messageboard, pretending to be several people who were all "completely convinced" by the Geopolymer theory. Laughable, really. Since he can't find REAL people who will believe him, he makes them up.



>
> They also know everyone here is NOT a pseudoscientist and is
> well versed in it, so they must know they're going to have
> their theories picked apart.

They also know there are 10,000 lurkers ... and not all of them are as practiced at critical thinking as some of the regular posters here. All they need is a few people to "invite their friends to visit their site"....

The bottom line is marketing. As the old saying goes... Free ink is good ink. Keep your name out there so people don't forget you.

Anthony</HTML>

Subject Author Posted

Everyone speculate on why alternatives would post here

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 11:54AM

Re: Everyone speculate on why alternatives would post here

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:01PM

PLEASE answer per the question/thread

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:03PM

Re: PLEASE answer per the question/thread

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:07PM

Re: PLEASE answer per the question/thread

Cicely December 12, 2003 01:45PM

Re: Everyone speculate on why alternatives would post here

Mikey Brass December 12, 2003 12:06PM

what possible publicity can be gotten here?

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:08PM

Re: what possible publicity can be gotten here?

Mikey Brass December 12, 2003 12:11PM

Fair enough.

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:13PM

Re: Fair enough.

Mikey Brass December 12, 2003 12:15PM

Re: Fair enough.

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:17PM

Re: Everyone speculate on why alternatives would post here

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:08PM

wrong, YOU convinced me to buy them

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:09PM

Re: wrong, YOU convinced me to buy them

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:10PM

No. The fire extinguisher example

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:11PM

Re: No. The fire extinguisher example

Mikey Brass December 12, 2003 12:12PM

Re: No. The fire extinguisher example

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:13PM

Excellent example.

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:15PM

Re: Excellent example.

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:16PM

don't follow your point.

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:18PM

Re: don't follow your point.

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:20PM

I understand that.

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:21PM

Stand still

Anthony December 12, 2003 12:22PM

STOP

Anthony December 12, 2003 12:19PM

that's just an example

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:23PM

Re: that's just an example

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:24PM

ROFL!

Anthony December 12, 2003 12:25PM

Nope. I have everything in a trust

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:25PM

No, it's a false assertion

Anthony December 12, 2003 12:39PM

??? was this for me?? n/t

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:43PM

More obfuscation

Anthony December 12, 2003 01:08PM

Make me. n/t

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 02:12PM

Thanks for comfirming

Anthony December 12, 2003 02:15PM

Sorry. Barn miss #3

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 02:27PM

Watch me closely...

Anthony December 12, 2003 02:30PM

But you're a SCIENTIST

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 02:34PM

Since when do mathematicians walk away?

Cyn December 12, 2003 02:46PM

Have you read the fire extinguisher story?

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 02:47PM

Re: Have you read the fire extinguisher story?

Cyn December 12, 2003 02:53PM

Re: But you're a SCIENTIST

Cicely December 12, 2003 02:53PM

Lets stick to the facts.

DaveL December 12, 2003 03:01PM

Re: Lets stick to the facts.

Cicely December 12, 2003 03:40PM

yes, but you're reading too much into it

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 03:01PM

Re: yes, but you're reading too much into it

Cicely December 12, 2003 03:41PM

Re: But you're a SCIENTIST

Anthony December 12, 2003 03:13PM

Re: Everyone speculate on why alternatives would post here

Cyn December 12, 2003 12:15PM

Doesn't make sense. We're dealing with alternatives here

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:16PM

Re: Doesn't make sense. We're dealing with alternatives here

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:18PM

He has no email/internet access

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:22PM

Re: He has no email/internet access

John Wall December 12, 2003 12:23PM

Re: He has no email/internet access

Cyn December 12, 2003 12:29PM

Re: Doesn't make sense. We're dealing with alternatives here

Cyn December 12, 2003 12:27PM

No need to speculate.

Anthony December 12, 2003 12:16PM

it would be nice if one of them

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 12:20PM

Re: it would be nice if one of them

Anthony December 12, 2003 12:24PM

Re: it would be nice if one of them

Cyn December 12, 2003 12:51PM

- No need to speculate.

DaveL December 12, 2003 12:42PM

LOL

Anthony December 12, 2003 12:53PM

Re: LOL

DaveL December 12, 2003 12:58PM

Re: LOL

Anthony December 12, 2003 01:37PM

Various reasons

Stephen Tonkin December 12, 2003 12:57PM

Re: Christ like reasons

JohnDM December 12, 2003 02:01PM

Re: Christ like reasons

Anthony December 12, 2003 02:06PM

Re: Christ like reasons

Simon December 12, 2003 10:26PM

Re: Everyone speculate on why alternatives would post here

Donald Raab December 12, 2003 01:34PM

Re: Everyone speculate on why alternatives would post here

Jim Moore December 12, 2003 01:58PM

Re: Everyone speculate on why alternatives would post here

Mikey Brass December 12, 2003 02:22PM

add'lly, wouldn't one alternative talk to another

Jim Lewandowski December 12, 2003 02:41PM



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