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Lee Olsen Wrote:
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> > Hello Lee,
> > What has Heyerdahls racism to do with the
> genomic
> > evidence?
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> I wish I'd seen Molle's comments sooner, he
> explains things a lot better than I can:
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Ancient History
Hermione Wrote:
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> > Bernard passed away?
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> I'm sorry, yes -
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> > Thanks for reprinting Dr. Townsends paper. If
> > could point you to one sentence that sums up my
> > contention that Eu
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Hello Hermione,
Im not sure what your point was in quoting Dr. Townsend, but it seems that your view is that, like Townsend, you believe that the Florentine codex was a product of Spanish invention and as such, not reliable. I was pleased that we can also refer to Bernards analysis of Townsend.
"Camilla Townsend is wrong when she systematically attributes the material in the Florentine c
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Hi Hermione,
Bernard passed away? So very sorry to hear that. He was a luminous intellect. In our very spirited discussions he invariably was patient, kind and always steered me to primary sources.
I'm at a loss for words and so return to the subject at hand, Bernard and I beat this subject to death on and off for the past thirty years. Im so saddened.
Thanks for reprinting Dr. Townsends
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Hi Rick,
Thats a spot on and eloquent observation. I was also going to call attention to the facr that whatever Heyerdahls archaic views on race, he did build the kon tiki and put his hypothesis to the test in the real world.
He continued the laudible tradition of experiential archaeology in the tradition of Speke, Byrd, Burton and Matthew Stirling, etc. So what if Hiram Bingham believed in ph
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Hello Lee,
What has Heyerdahls racism to do with the genomic evidence? I just dont get it. The tired old chestnut of 'racism' is a two-edged sword. If we somehow cast aspertions on Heyerdahls theories because he held racist views of white superiority, then what of Camilla Townsend of Dartmouths contention? In her paper, "Burying the White Gods', she dismisses one of the four
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Hi Hermione,
No, I meant humbled as opposed to humiliation. I wouldn't wish humiliation on anyone. The attitude towards Heyerdahl has been overwhelmingly condescending and paternalistic, as if he was an eccentric doddering old uncle. I am somewhat familiar with scientific methodology, Thanks for the refresher course.
Duncan
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
This book seems prescient in light of the new Stanford genomic study about native American contact with Polynesians. The time frame of both is circa 1000-1200 ad.
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
How humbling for archaeologists who viewed Heyerdahl as a fringe eccentric!
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Thank you, Hans!
To say I enjoyed it is an understatement.
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Paul H. Wrote:
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> > Good point Paul and that is also the portion
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> > the Island of Hawaii where the big cattle
> ranches
> > are.
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> According to Google Earth, the exact location is
> 20° 6'27.9"N,
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Khazar-khum Wrote:
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> Dammit, Hans, haven't you learned anything? All
> Mesoamerican structures are built for astronomical
> observations. All of them. Even the zocalos and
> farmlands. They spent every second staring at the
> sky. That's why the Spanish were able to take them
> so easily--they never looked
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Roxana Cooper Wrote:
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> I'm getting the impression that Khipus were string
> spread sheets and probably about as interesting to
> read. Of course I know that economic information
> is very important - just dry.
These particular Khoi concerned commodity inventory but Urton is hoping that they lead to an understanding
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Jammer Wrote:
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> I thought I had read the epicanthic fold is normal
> in all asian descent & the ancestors of native
> Americans were definitely from Siberia ie Asian...
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> Why wouldn't they have it? Don't most native
> Americans as well?
Yes
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Syrian Archaeologist Beheaded
One of Khalid Al Asaads capital offenses was attending "international conferences of infidels".
Another was refusing to divulge the location of artifacts.
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Duncan Craig
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Humanities
Hans Wrote:
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> I had a discussion on that subject with Terry
> Hunt* who works at time on RN. The problem is
> finding a technology that will pick them up then
> finding the money to find more Moai. What he would
> really like to find would be a habitation site
> which might exist - perhaps even a 'worker's
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Many thanks giselle!j
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Duncan Craig
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Laboratory
This data is so complex to my simple laymens mind. Craniometric studies strke me as something out of the nineteenth century. Are they still accepted as evidence when they contradict DNA?
And how can an "unexpected link between Amazonians and Pacific Islanders" be seen as supportive of traditional Bering Strait migration models? What am I missing? I was under the impression that it was
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Laboratory
Geotio Wrote:
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> No apology expected or necessary .
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> Btw .
> The prehistoric buildings with alignments are far
> from "random" , they are often the most obvious /
> biggest with a clear indications of the the
> alignment ,which also indicates intentionality .
I am surprised that the
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Duncan Craig
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Alternative Geometry and Numerology
Jammer Wrote:
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> That is a valid point, consider this;
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> 1) It only took a sleepover or three for smallpox
> to spread like wildfire among the natives when the
> Europeans arrived, yet the Chinese have been
> exposed to & resistant to smallpox since at
> least 250AD. Being exposed to also means a % of
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Jammer Wrote:
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> They have recovered parrot feathers & ceramic
> steins of chocolate from Chaco Canyon, New Mexico.
> Are you suggesting they did not come from meso
> America?
Of course not. They obviously came from mesoamerica without need of horse or wheel.
> May I point out I wasn't the one who injecte
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Duncan Craig
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bernard Wrote:
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> > Duncan Craig posted
> > > "This is contradictory. If the Aztecs
> made it
> > to the Southwest, then why not Chinese?
> > > Particularly if they were one and the
> s
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Ancient History
Khazar-khum Wrote:
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> > > So now instead of Egyptians colonizing
> > Mesoamerica
> > > and teaching
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Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> Of course I'm aware of Chinese human sacrifice.
> Human sacrifice is pretty much the rule at some
> time or another in most cultures. I'm talking
> about
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Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> Strange though that even with all of these quotes
> from the Popol Vuh and the Chinese Religious texts
> that the Chinese never got around to ritual
> sacrifice by ripping people's hearts out and
> sacrificing them to the sun god.
Strange that you aren't aware of the Shang dynasty and sub
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Khazar-khum Wrote:
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> So now instead of Egyptians colonizing Mesoamerica
> and teaching the locals everything, it's the
> Chinese.
I don't recall mentioning Egyptians.
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Ancient History
Jammer Wrote:
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> Evidence, or lack thereof...
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> 1) The Chinese had wheeled carts by at least
> 1,200BCE... there is some evidence as early as
> 2,000BCE.
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> 2) Native Americans discovered wheeled carts
> NEVER
Discovered? Never? What about the many wheeled effigy figures, sometimes referred to as
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Roxana Cooper Wrote:
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> I want better evidence than arguable signs on
> rocks is that asking too much?
Of course not, but these petroglyph didn't appear in a vacuum. They weren't even the only indication this week. The importance of the Mercury find at Teotihuacan will be more evident once excavation proceeds in Xian,
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> I'm sorry it came across as more sarcastic than I
> wanted.
No problem.
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> So starting over. What do we have? a few
> petroglyphs in the middle of the American desert.
> Just out of curiosity have you ever been to the
> American southwest?
Or seen a petroglyph?
Yes.
> Serio
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Ancient History
Jammer Wrote:
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> Interesting concept... has any geological experts
> studied the ease of both canals?
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> Not with the tools we have now of course
The area is very tectonically active, abd stratigraphic studies suggest a large volcanic eruption circa 1500 ad, which may have formed Lake Nicaragua, closing it off to the Pac
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Duncan Craig
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Ancient History
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