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MJ Thomas Wrote:
> The entire plan of Khufu’s pyramid can be produced
> using only simple multiplication (doubling),
> division (halving), addition, and subtraction;
How did they arrive at 7/11 using such methods?
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Monty J. Bowen Wrote:
> 16944/Ht.of GP will give you "Half Side Length of
> GP".
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> Try this;
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> Isosceles triangle,
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> Height = 777
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> Angle = 51.84
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> How would you determine the length of the base?
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> Try this;
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> 612 + 216 = 828
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> 828 + 282 = 1110
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> 1110 + 0111 = "1221"
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MJ Thomas Wrote:
> The problem with the Queen's Chamber is that all
> of its four walls lean – the side (north and
> south) walls lean northward (at the east wall more
> so than at the west wall) and the end (east and
> west) walls lean into the Chamber.
> However, once these leans are taken into account
> along with the differences in the locations of the
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Robert Bauval Wrote:
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> > Jean Kerisel, basing himself on the narative of
> Herodotus, proposed a possible horizontal tunnel
> on the east side from the lower part of the
> escarpement. There is, so far, no evidence of such
> a tunnel. But much of the landscape has been
> tampered with.
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Ah well, just a thought. However I can't see why measuring the horizontal spacing of the vertical joints would be particularly difficult. At least one might check the regularity of the spacing.
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I wonder if anyone who plans to go to Giza this spring would be interested enough to take a ruler to measure the stones in the horizontal passage?
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Hi Pistol,
A very interesting post and a good case for some changes of plan in the course of building, but what is this evidence for predynastic and early dynastic construction? The blocks around the Queen's Chamber may have been shuffled around in the manner that you suggest, and the differences in DP and AC construction techniques are indeed difficult to explain, leading you to conclude
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Robert Bauval Wrote:
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> On the other hand there may have been a
> predynastic horizontal passage entrance to the
> subterranean chamber, and that later the
> descending passage was built by Khufu.
Perhaps I'm missing something here but the sub chamber is carved out of bedrock. Where is there any hole to the outside if
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Pyramid stepped bedrock cores, as well as the built up platform below the southeast corner of GII, shows us that the builders were clear about what they wanted to do, despite the constraints of the topography. Why not build this pyramid a little bit further to the west?
But why bother to pile up this foundation unless there was some cultic reason for spacing the pyramids certain distances apar
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The Giza 'diagonal' is not of course the true diagonal of a square. It is a vague alignment, such as has often been met with in the various systems of geometry applied to the pyramids and usually would be dismissed out of hand. Nobody has explained what the particular angle involved might mean. But then there is Lehner's 'rock' to give the third point on the alignment. He
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Hi MJ,
It might be worth mentioning here Butler's observations on the floorplans of Giza pyramid chambers. He points out that certain dimensions seems to have been favoured.
27 cubits - GI sub chamber, GII main chamber, GIII antechamber
He observes that unit lengths based on 5 cubits were used in six chambers and also argues for a 20 cubit dimension in each pyramid.
20 cubits - G
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Hi mj,
It's worth noting that Butler puts the base of GII 20 cubits above GI, so the top of the granite course is 22 cubits above.
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There's a discussion going on over at Graham Hancock at the moment about how accurately the Egyptians could establish the relative position of the belt stars with naked eye observations.
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DDeden Wrote:
> "Bruce Cathie thinks he might know more. Using his
> harmonics, he believes there is a mathematical
> connection between the pyramids in China and the
> pyramids of Egypt. The number 16944 is present
> inside the Great Pyramid of Gizeh, he states, and
> there are 16944 minutes of arc between the
> longitude of the Great Pyramid at Gizeh and that
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Yes there do seem to be variations : I have not the reference to hand but recall a couple of New Kingdom rods (I suppose others will be familiar with these examples) : in the order of ennead symbols, on one rod Geb is omitted and Osiris slips from seventh to sixth place.
There have been discussions here on the origins of the cubit, particularly on the difficulty in establishing without questio
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What do the symbols written above the digit signs mean? For example the star next to the marks which divide the cubit into 22 and 6 parts?
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Khazar-khum Wrote:
> Not true. Better methods & recent discoveries
> are just two of the reasons that more recent data
> may be preferred.
True. But where are the published reports of such discoveries? In the case of Khufu the publication of new measures superseding Petrie and Cole?
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Don,
I thought the angle for the bent is nearer 43 degrees, and that for the red around 44? What are the best recent estimates for the actual angles?
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Clive wrote :
'It requires a little thought to work out the method I used.'
'there are several drawings required to explain the full process used by the designers when positioning the three chambers within G1 at Giza.
I do guarantee...it had absolutely nothing to do with burials.'
'Close Chris...very close, but there's another reason why they protrude at th
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Pistol,
If the recess in Menkaure's tomb chamber was designed to hold a sarcophagus having the same width as Khufu's (but different from Khafre's) might this be added to the list of other similarities between the two pyramids?
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Kanga,
Old book. 60 degrees does sound unlikely. Valloggia gives the slope as 48 -52, and the base as 106.2 m. This is larger than Menkaure at 105.5 m, but yes the two pyramids are externally similar, even perhaps to the use of granite casing. However in other respects Menkaure's complex, including its passage system, conforms to the general pattern of the other two complexes at Giza. A 1
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More than one contributor to this thread has mentioned other pyramids that have bisected faces or hollowing, which would argue against a special significance for the hollowing of Khufu and Menkaure. Is anyone familiar with this? Any photos?
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Kanga Wrote:
> No, Menkaure's designers wished to emulate
> Djedefre's pyramid. Both have base of 200 cubits
> and slope of 14:11.
What is the source of this information?
Maragioglio and Rinaldi state 98 metres for the remaining core and, allowing for casing, estimate 200 cubits side. Near to Menkaure perhaps in the sense that the base of Khufu is 'near' to
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What are the other pyramids like that have concavities?
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Scott,
What is the 'possible third pyramid' with bisected faces, and what is its slope?
Robins and Shute estimated Menkaure slope as 14/11, ie. the same as Khufu, so the bisection seems in some way associated with this slope. Khafre by contrast has a different slope and flat faces.
In an earlier thread I mentioned Butler's proposal for a symmetry (or as he terms it, a 'refl
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Some time back there was much discussion of root rectangles, various alignments through pyramid corners and centres, 'quarter base' 45 degree alignments, and so on. At least such theories referenced built features. The present offering extends so far off the map that the variables are legion. And how does it relate to the earlier 'quarter base' material etc. ? At least when St
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Why does one of the rods have the ennead plus horus marking the first ten fingers, while another rod omits geb and horus moves down to the ninth finger ?
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Lehner was brought up in a household that believed in the quasi-religious ideas of Edgar Cayce. The young Petrie witnessed fascinating discussions with his father's pyramidologist friends. When confronted with the facts on the ground, both men determined to do further research using the methods of science. Lehner has provided valuable survey data and there is no evidence that he secretly adh
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Assuming Khufu base was intended as 440 cubits, using Cole's survey, the cubit becomes 0.52355 m. Butler states that 'the sum of well-dressed lengths inside the Great Pyramid suggests a royal cubit around 0.52366 m, giving an apparent difference of ~1 in 4,910 from the base circuit cubit (i.e. the same)'. So the mean for the 'Khufu cubit' is 0.5236 m.
Butler then points
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Surely the distinction between Greek and surrounding civilisations is that the former was philsophic and the latter mythic. (see essay here :
- seafaring, trading, money, and a flexible alphabet employed as much to write comedies and love letters as religious formulae.
There remain examples of borrowing from Egypt, for example the proportions and attitudes of early Kourioi, and the prob
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