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Hi Byrd, if I might. Apparently the oldest cubit rod found is from The New Kingdom. Now it is possible that all the others have been lost but I tend to not think so. So what could be another reason why no earlier cubit rods have been found ? Could it be that it was constantly changing as suggested by hrst1 and making a cubit rod was not deemed worth it since it would soon be obsolete ?by Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Wow Sam Laboy. I honestly didn't know he had moved on from The Great Pyramid. I still have a pre-publication binder with his work on The Great Pyramid. We used to correspond regularly. I will have to give it a read. Unfortunately however I found my theory was wrong and thus I think I will find the same fault with his version. dbby Ahatmose - Alternative Geometry and Numerology
No what I forgot to do was multiply by some mysterious measurement and then for some inexplicable reason (known only to me) divide by 20.by Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Hi Byrd what I meant was that having never examined the numbers and the ratios produced, the orthodox scholar has really nothing to offer on numbers. They are totally in the dark as to what the numbers could mean. It has nothing to do with hymns or anything else. The monuments are a testament to the numbers and since as far as I know no orthodox scholar has studied or offered an opinion on why ceby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Hi Pistol, nice post. However that is the problem. They, and I assume we mean Egyptologists, have moved on but they moved on having never examined the evidence that the measuring produced and that is what continues, and will continue to fuel theories and speculations. dbby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Maybe it was the length a shadow moved on a particular day in a set amount of time. Just a thought. dbby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Hi thank you but perhaps the whole passage might be needed : QuoteNow that we are furnished, for the first time, with an accurate knowledge of the ancient dimensions of the Pyramids we can enter on an examination of the theories which have been formed, and test them by the real facts of the case. Hitherto, on even the most important and crucial question, the only resource has been taking the mby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Quote ... ancient site measurements are but the lowest ranking evidences of any theory Well for heavens sake then why are any of us concerned with the length of a silly old cubit ? dbby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Quote.... ancient site measurements are but the lowest ranking evidences of any theory. Really ????? Petrie actually said that after all that meticulous work he did in Egypt MEASURING ! Could you place a link to the source. I have to read this for myself. As to his "error" anyone who took the time to divide 9450 inches by 15170 inches would have immediately found the error as Iby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
He made just one single error on this page, angle should have been 31º 55' 12" ... not 34º 10' 11" Total error in measurements ... 1 inch 36856.7 instead of 36857.7 and 17873.1 instead of 17873.2 Hardly a serious error to anyone checking his distances. dbby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Using 10 metres as the difference in elevation of bases of G1 and G2 we get a change of distance of ... 4 inches. dbby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
So where it the error. In the co-ordinates or in the formula ? dbby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
I checked a second calculator site and it showed 18,892.126 Better but still 276.27 inches outby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
I actually did an experiment one day and held a meter stick in my hand (fist) and stretched it out. I then got someone to measure from my fist (the stick) to my eye. Result was 20.62 " The measurement from centre to centre (G1 to G2) would not change for any reason. doesn't matter angle or anything. And Dash checked for 4 inches.by Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Hi Chris that only varies 4 inches from what Petrie got and I was aware of that. My concern is why the coordinates of various websites yield such erroneous results ... unless of course the program I used to calculate it is at fault. I will see if I can find another program regards dbby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Thanks Chris for trouble taken ! There is only one measurement that would seem to fit a Royal Cubit and that is: 1 cubit 6 palms 2 1/2 fingers . I admit that this would seem to allow a cubit of at least 7 palms. So are you of the opinion that The Royal Cubit was the unit of measure in The First and Second Dynasty and how does that fit into the measurements of known and measured early dynasticby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
I thought there was two cubits. A regular cubit of approximately 18 inches (17.72 will do) and The Royal Cubit of continuing debate (between apparently 20.5 and 20.67448 (mine for Meidum) and 20.70. If we accept 17.72 as a length in our inches for the regular cubit and there are 24 digits in this cubit then The Royal Cubit should be 17.72 / 24 then times 28 and yields 20.673333 We cannot loby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
... and a reminder to certain individuals that there are other theories out there that use the 20.62 inch cubit and are perhaps even more elegant. dbby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Good point Hermione and it is interesting how some people pick and choose which of Petrie's measurements are accepted or discarded. I believe there is a name for that ... oh yeah ..."cherry picking". Apparently he could measure G1 accurately but not G2 or G3. His (Petrie's) opinion on the cubit is accepted becasue sometimes it fits certain unproven theories. He could measure iby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
LOL ... pot, kettle, black. I guess your work is so perfect it can't be amended . Yes fine we are done.by Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
According to one site: According to hrst1 Timeline of History ------------------------------------------------------------ hrst1 (building of) Khufu ca. 2551–2528 B.C. --------------------------------------------------by Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Read the paper ... It is hrst1's theory not mine. Show why and how Tropic of Cancer + 6 degrees = date of construction is wrong.by Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Gosh Byrd I expected more from you. But when the wagons are being circled the best defence is a nonsense offence I guess.by Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Another observation ... The Longitude of Perihelion (... The longitude of the perihelion represents the angular position of the perihelion of the orbit from the vernal equinox. This angle gives the position of the Earth on its orbit at the spring equinox. Knowing the longitude of the perihelion, it is possible to determine the Earth-Sun distance at any time in the year.) if one looks, is extrby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
An observation just made (probably missed it earlier because of blindness) I have just been analyzing the Tropic and Cancer and came to the realization that according to the figures given by hrst1 the latitudes of at least The Giza Pyramids seem to be EXACTLY 6 degrees north of where the Tropic of Cancer was in the year in which he suggests each part was built. It this is correct then simpby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
hrst1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ahatmose, in all his excitement, has somewhat > misconstrued what I wrote. > > The figures for the latitudinal decrease to the > position of the Tropic of Cancer during the early > Dynastic era are given as 1/10,000th part of > latitudinal degree per year (36.3688 feet at the > latitude of Gizby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Sorry forgot to answer the question ... I quote Sir Flinders Petrie. dbby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Er ... I posted an image of his rendition of the sun at noon over The Tropic of Cancer. I believe this is all I did. I did not agree or disagree with any of what you've insinuated I meant. We are not discussing any reference to The Great Pyramid as a scale model of The Earth. That was put to bed ages ago. Why bring it up here ? Tompkins showed an image over the well at Syrene and explainby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt
Just curious who and what determines what a reliable source is ... the orthodox Egyptology Brother/Sisterhood and believing in what they believe? ... and please no more with the Jason Colavito blog links .... I do not consider HIM a reliable source His bio is pretty sketchy at best, very similar to Lehner's Why does everyone on here quote him ? No don't answer that we are geby Ahatmose - Ancient Egypt