just saw it. Not bad. Not bad at all.
My local film critic didn't like so I was pretty sure I would but promos
and pictures had made it clear that CP would not be as faithful to the book as
LWW. But as it turned out the changes weren't anywhere near as drastic as I'd
thought.
If you remember the book Caspian blows Queen Susan's horn only after he's
been l
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Roxana Cooper
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Jammer Wrote:
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> Khazar-khum
>
> And yet, holding a disgraced, disenfranchised, or
> disempowered King as prisoner can be less
> dangerous than creating a martyr by slaughtering
> him.
Tell that to Richard III.
Of course, the Tudors were adept at propaganda, and had the greatest writer of all time on their te
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Khazar-khum
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Ancient Egypt
Thin thee sees, laddie, why I played Richard III wi' a Yorkie accent! Eee, 'twas wasted wholly on t'Americans!
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Voltaire
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Coffee Shop
I knew there was some reason I liked Yorkies, besides King Richard III.
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Voltaire
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Coffee Shop
Thanks. Wordsworth was so great in his heyday. He understood the ardent sublimity (or sublime ardency) of contemplation.
When holy and devout religious men
Are at their beads, 'tis hard to draw them thence,
So sweet is zealous contemplation.
Richard III.iii.7
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Sue
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Humanities
You might try to keep in mind that he and Tacitus were writing as propagandists for the Flavians who had usurped the purple from the Julio-Claudians.
Think of Shakespear's portrayal of Richard III. We know from despatches of the Venetian ambassador and the Papal nuncio that R III was a tall handsome blond. Henry Tudor was the usurper there and it would have been Will life to paint the ki
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Bob Wickland
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Coffee Shop
I recently had the intense displeasure of reading "To The Tower Born", a novel that took a decidedly odd attempt at Richard III. Quite a bit of the historical background was right on, but the characterisations were simply bizarre. Most of the motivations and attitudes were modern: rather jarring in the Fifteenth Century. I suspect that it was originally planned as a romance novel and wa
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Voltaire
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Paper Lens
Normally, I can recite huge blocks of dialogue (My theatrical training earning its keep). In the case of Troy, only two seared themselves onto my cortex by vitue of their sheer cheesiness: "There are Greeks (Not Achaens?) dying on that beach!' and "Is there no-one else?"
So far. I've been unable to wedge them into any conversations the way I can, say, Polonius or Richard
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Voltaire
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Coffee Shop
Good one Rick
My favorate history lesson is Shakespear's Richard III. Several years ago (I wish I had the references) Someone found in Rome and Venice the reports to the Vatican and to the Doge of the papal nuncio and Venetian ambassador on the succession of R III. It was standard proceedure to write a detailed physical description and character assessment to the home office when a new
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Bob Wickland
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Ancient History
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Katherine Reece
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Ancient History
> Sorry but the particular set of references you are referring too regarding moral /
> ethical issues are maral / ethical assumptions.
Well, science also makes assumptions all of the time, including the setting of the "initial condition" parameters...
> For example Genocide, how can "Science" tell us whether it is good or bad, we have to
> make assumptio
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wirelessguru1
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Laboratory
You say:
Quote> Are you implying that I'am doing that? What your talking about is Scientism which I
> regard as basically religious. Science tells us next to zero on moral / ethical issues.
Not exactly, but moral/ethical issues are also primarily related to a PARTICULAR set of references! So, I also try to look at these issue in a scientific manner. Meaning that I do not imm
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Pacal
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Laboratory
There must have been a lot of Prussians at Eton in the 18th century
Pete
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Pete Clarke
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Ancient History
Re: Yet - 19 years ago
When you consider that he made it through a couple of reigns, things change. I just wish we had some of his lost works where we only have a song here, a couple of pages there. *sigh*
Yes, I like Shakespeare, but even young, I knew he wasn't a historian nor treated as if he was.
And I still like Richard III. I think he had a lot to deal with--besides his ambitions.
Cyn
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Cynnara
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Ancient History
Especially as I've heard some unique translations of Elizabethan English into Japanese. *grins* (Long story, but it was quite interesting. LOL)
Personally, I found about Richard III before I read Shakespeare. After reading Shakespeare, I wondered about Shakespeare's ability to write anything purely historical that didn't have political leanings in order to conform to the courts
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Cynnara
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Ancient History
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> Don't you mean exit stage left.
No - it is actually "Exit, pursued by a bear"!
> what is an adroit de seigneur anyway. my bet is
> it's some kind of large dog. like a mastiff
Can't follow your thought processes here, Marduk ...
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Anonymous User
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Ancient History
Yes that's the one. There's one record that records the birth and another that recalls that the father was away campaigning at the time. And had been for an entire 12 months previousely.
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marduk
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Ancient History
My money's on hoodwinked. Why on earth would records be in a French cathedral? Noble ladies playing around is definitely the kind of thing that goes officially unrecorded - unless of course Duke Richard had brought charges of adultery against his wife, in which case Richard III would probably never have been born.
As I recall this liasion was supposed to have taken place in Calais, w
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Roxana Cooper
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Ancient History
By new theory take it that i mean old theory with new evidence. Somebody found some records in a french cathedral. or have i been hoodwinked by television again.
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marduk
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Ancient History
Yes to both. Loved 'Much Ado', a little less enthusiastic about 'Loves Labors' but then it is the inferior play. I didn't mind the modern music anywhere near as much as I thought I would.
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Roxana Cooper
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Ancient History
Don't you mean exit stage left.
what is an adroit de seigneur anyway. my bet is it's some kind of large dog. like a mastiff
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marduk
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Ancient History
marduk Wrote:
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> Isn't there a new theory out that proves that the
> princes in the tower were illegitimate bastards
> and so a threat to the god given throne of
> england. Apparently their grandmother conceived
> them while their grandfather was away at the
> crusades. The real father was a french bowman or
>
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Roxana Cooper
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Ancient History
Kenneth branagh. Now that guy is noteworthy. His imagination knows no bounds. You know his biggest fantasy is to be in a film playing a professional footballer in the mould of his favourite player, Stuart Pearce. He said: "I think I could be the amazing guy who, at 38, is still in the game. A local hero, very sexy, very strong, an amazing dribbler of the ball."
what you think now then.
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marduk
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Ancient History
marduk Wrote:
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> nothing else to say
> im gonna go and find a chair to hide under
Exit, pursued by a bear ...
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Anonymous User
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Ancient History
I helped a good friend bury his father a number of years ago. As a young boy he had been given a number of copies of different plays by his father.
As the coffin was lowered into the grave, he tossed his copy of Hamlet on top and said..good night sweet prince
I Know I cried like a baby!
Shakespeare reminds the common man that he has value, and the exceptional..that he has faults.
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Warwick L Nixon
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Ancient History
I love that bit in macbeth where the captain describes macbeth's killing of mcdonald "Unseam'd him from the nave to th' chops"
but thats it.
nothing else to say
im gonna go and find a chair to hide under
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marduk
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Ancient History
Roxana Cooper Wrote:
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> Personally I'm partial to Branaugh's productions.
> (should I be hiding under a chair here?)
>
Certainly not as far as I'm concerned! (Have you seen his "Much Ado"? And "Love's Labours Lost"?)
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Anonymous User
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Ancient History
Sue Wrote:
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> It's hard sometimes for me to tell whether
> Shakespeare deliberately fractured the history and
> biographies in his plays, or whether he was just
> operating on the prevalent views of the time. I
> believe he used Plutarch and other sources for the
> Roman plays and Holinshed's C
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Anonymous User
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Ancient History
Personally I'm partial to Branaugh's productions. (should I be hiding under a chair here?)
I went to his 'Hamlet' when it was released in theatres and sat right in front of a pair of teenage boys who barely knew who Shakespeare was - they were mesmerized. So was I. I remember when the four hour long movie broke for intermission, (Hamlet's speech just after encounte
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Roxana Cooper
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Ancient History
' had to suffer his work' ??????
Astounding!!!
Do you think everyone in the World asks questions about Richard III because of the history books?
Or because Shakespeare Wrote about him?
Warwick
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Warwick L Nixon
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Ancient History