It seems to me that Pistol has already arranged to take his ideas further, in the form of publication in that Italian alternomag. Which means that any discussion here is not terribly relevant.
I was skeptical with the first post, and by the third had decided that Anthony and Ronald and others were spot-on with their "cloud-images" assessment. Everything since has just confirmed that
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>> No. It's not controversial because it's
> established by the FACT
> that ramps are assumed. Everything is predicated
> on ramps.
Where on earth do you get that? Egyptologists' assessment of the Egyptian economy has bugger-all to do with ramps. It's predicated on masses of arch
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>> (Regarding a website quoted about water under Giza fizzing: No. That's it. I don't consider it very solid
> evidence either but it's hardly the
> sort of thing most people would make up. I
> believe this site is associated with
> Hawass but he might not be an entirely reliable
>
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>> I'm not very familiar with many of the old
> building sites or the reasons
> or means of their construction. Few other sites
> surprise me in the least.
> The Great Wall served a military function. Most
> other projects simply didn't
> require the kind of effort that the Great Py
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> Perhaps it's you looking at this ethnocentically.
I really don't think so, you know. I've done a fair amount of fieldwork in the Sudan (where basin agriculture is still practiced in places), including some ethnoarchaeological fieldwork in Kordofan, and have a pretty good appreciation of the kind of
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> > Whether they used ramps or geysers as ballast to
> build the pyramids is not a
> matter of semantics.
>
> Whether the Egyptians left a book of spells or a
> book about geysers is not a
> matter of semantics either.
Absolutely, to both. Those are, or should be, matters of evidence.
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> > I refuse to argue semantics.
That's a bit surprising, coming from one who argues constantly for his own idiosyncratic interpretation of Egyptian terms. My point was, that you are not doing your credibility any good by making such an amateurish mistake.
> If you want to call the sun
> high overh
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Absolutely right. Cairo is at about 30N. Average daily hours of sunlight in the winter months is about equal to the average hours in the summer months in the Canadian great plains, where I live, and is obviously adequate for growing crops. CK, going into denial over the undeniable details of Egyptian agriculture (such as the winter growing season, the role of the inundation prior to the High D
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> Rebby Wrote:
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> > Do you contend that similar features are
> found
> > under the other Gizamids, and the other
> pyramid
> > fields?
>
> Most of the pyramids follow a similar pattern.
Sorry, I should have made my question clearer. You referred to a natural fissure under t
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> Because I don't see this project as something
> benign. It is too massive
> to be benign. It is probably too massive to even
> have been possible us-
> ing ramps to complete it. Ramps probably wouldn't
> have allowed enough
> people to work to complete the task. Even if i
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> Petrie said that it appears there was more
> structural work to the
> main entrance to the Great Pyramid. Just under
> this area Vyse ex-
> cavated a huge natural fissure to great depth
> before it had to be
> abandoned because it bacame too narrow.
>
> My contention is that Osiris&
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> Okay, let me see if I've got this straight; the
> Egyptians are supposed to have
> put a stone block over a geyser mouth and let the
> water jet it into position?
> That sounds - precarious to me.
I wondered about that too. I keep getting an image from Kubla Khan:
"And in that chasm,
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> But the fact still remains that if a despot or a
> god wants too much
> then people will not go along.
Sorry, not so. Have you heard the expression "to drink the Koolaid"? Suicide, pouring cyanide down your baby's throat, and (as you point out yourself) mass murder of your neighbours ca
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> This is where the insanity comes in. Sane people
> individually
> or as a culture will not devote 50% of their lives
> and wealth
> for the king's ego. And please none of the
> claptrap about him
> being a God. He wasn't. Even if the population
> believed he
> was they w
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I don't see his name, but it could be Andjety, husband of Meskhent, both of whom wear that cow's-innards thing on their heads.
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Nice link. This one looks more like the nome standard for #3, on the far west of the Delta...?
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I think the middle bit (with the Horus) is Gardiner's R13 - the feather to the right of the bird is pretty clear. Possibly, then, a nome standard?
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Actually, there has been a huge amount of serious research done in Lower Nubia and the Sudan since Ballana and Qustul (which, BTW, were excavated closer to 70 years ago), on all periods from the Paleolithic right up to the Christian. Perhaps you are not aware of it. Some of these researches were indeed the heritage of the High Dam Campaign, when archaeologists like W.Y.Adams and Fritz Hintze go
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Concavities running down the centrelines of the faces of a square-based geometric figure are bound to work "beautifully geometrically"; therefore, as indicators, they are (at the most charitable interpretation) ambiguous. What would actually be impressive and convincing would be concavities running askew down the faces of the second pyramid, in concordance with Scott and Don's dra
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That's right - he was at Maiden Castle in 1934, aged 19. It was his first taste of excavation, and a big factor in his decision to be a dirt archaeologist rather than an epigrapher.
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P.L. Shinnie, eminent Africanist and long-time excavator of Meroe Townsite (and my old mentor and professor), died last night in Calgary at the age of 92.
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You're right, he's very off on the Piri Reis map - in fact, I really like Tim Callahan's books and articles on Biblical topics, and I'm a bit shocked at how badly askew he goes with this one: first, by accepting the myth that the map shows Antarctica - second, by going on to quote a source as outdated and iffy as "Man Across the Sea," as if it offered sound, solid ev
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I guess now we'll have to change our tuna.
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Yeah, thanks Wayne. I was thinking the same thing about the gravimetric patterns.
Also thinking of the practical complexities of dragging all those stones up a single narrow spiral inside the body of the pyramid. The wear on the internal ramp. The effect of keeping the internal ramp lubricated to reduce friction - wouldn't that mean a lot of water being absorbed into the internal fabri
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I had a look at their PDF presentation - pretty pictures, but most of the text seems to be about how clever they are with their shiny new 3D technology. It leaves me with a lot of questions: like, I will be very interested to hear how they approach the finishing of the casing stones--their pix show the exterior to be all smooth and white and finished from the beginning. But how? At what part of
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I'm really dubious. Like Bill, I can see no great advantage to this over an external ramp, except that it makes for niftier graphics. And I'm doubly dubious when I see the claim made in the Independent article quote above:
"An external ramp would also raise the issue of where the waste products from the building went. What happened to such immense volumes of waste material wh
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Thanks, MJ! I've actually got Some Trust in Chariots, discovered (as you said) in a 2nd-hand bookshop; and the Santa article is indeed a gem. Absolutely hilarious parody. Your suggestion that Sagan wrote it is very plausible. I wonder if there's any way to find out for sure, short of aking Ann Druyan? (Which, of course, one would hate to do.)
I don't own Ronald Story's
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Barry said: That is indeed a laudable goal but such thinkers as Derrida, Lacan, or Bhabha would say that is near impossible to accomplish.
So they say, but that’s both defeatist and specious. I’m extremely skeptical of pomo deconstructionist theoreticians, who mainly seem to be speaking through portions of their anatomy other than their mouths.
Barry said: Also, consider this exampl
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Barry said: "Even historians would admit that the surviving historical record is hardly representative of the true historical record. That 'victors write history' is one problem. Victors also have a tendency to selectively destroy artifacts, records (e.g., the Catholic Church in MesoAmerica and Islamic invaders in Northern India). Yet, historians seem to have no problem making gene
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I used to teach credit courses in Introductory Archaeology, and always included a module on the pseudostuff, using Feder as a textbook. It's pretty good, and he updates frequently. But I'm looking forward to seeing Archaeological Fantasies; the contents list looks great, very comprehensive. Thanks for the tip about the paperback, I'd only seen the whopping price for the hb, and w
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