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Re: An Interesting Simple Giza Layout Plan - 19 years ago

RLH, Why did you choose this view? Have you tried reversing the superimposed image so that the southern-exiting shafts face geographic east and the northern-exiting shafts face geographic west?

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Corrections & Addendum - 19 years ago

Pacal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > you say: > Quote:I think what it all means is that most > skeptics do a lousy job of researching whatever > they are so hellbent on debunking. > > I think what it means is that most defenders of > "alternative" ways of viewing the way the world > operates like to mind read Skeptics

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Corrections & Addendum - 19 years ago

Except the skeptics have nothing new, just poor research. How long has Velikovsky been dead now?

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Ark of the Covenant - 19 years ago

No, he just opened the door for Simcha...

by Joanne - Coffee Shop

Re: Corrections & Addendum - 19 years ago

I think what it all means is that most skeptics do a lousy job of researching whatever they are so hellbent on debunking.

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

The Egyptians had paints of many colors and they used black ink and red ink. They knew the difference. They chose to depict themselves in the reddish brown color of dSr. They chose to portray non-Egyptian peoples in the much darker, non reddish brown color of km. That's reality.

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

Doug M Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is not enough to say > that the Egyptians painted themselves as red, > because they didnt. They painted themselves > ochre, which is a brownish red earhthy color that > has been mined in Africa and used for ritual, > spiritual and artistic purposes for over 40,000 > years. Ochre has be

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

Tommi Huhtamaki Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > we have many words for red in English that > > are synonyms, but are they identical colors? > > > Tomatoes are a different color from blood, > but we > > call both "red." > > > Dark red isn't a word, but it can still be used to > define a color.

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

broko Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Let me repeat it to you one more time: the Two > Lands was divided in two parts: the Upper and the > Lower Egypt. Those two were represented by the > colours white and red > > Incorrect. No, it's correct. You're really not able to get past the words for the colors, are you? The Two

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

broko Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's the color of the south > > No, it isn't. What is your reference that it is not? > It is specifically the color of the connical > crown, Are you saying that crown is not called the "crown of the south"? I asked you to explain the color significance of the double crown?

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

It's not the people in different cultures don't see the same colors. People are able to see the same things. It's about what a language distinguishes. For instance, some languages have one word meaning both "blue" and "green." The people see the grass as a different color from the sky, but they would say "sky (color)" and "grass (color)",

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Gillings - The Full Story - 19 years ago

The time organizing it is much less than the time searching for things or the time wasted re-ordering library materials that are buried here, photocopied already.

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

Hi Tommi, You may find these helpful:

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

broko Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Of course not, because white is not a color > reference to peoples in Km.t. The closest would > be as a reference to the baboon God of the moon, > in which the moon is referenced as white. What "baboon God of the moon"? > As for white and red symbolizing upper and lower > egypt, t

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Gillings - The Full Story - 19 years ago

Anthony and Ritva, I also mean to keep a bibliography. At a certain point, one cannot remember what is what book or paper by which author. Keeping track of what I have on hand vs. what I read in a book that I don't own, but can borrow again, etc. is important. I've got lists of papers listed in journals or in Festschrifts so I can find sources again when I need them.

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Gillings - The Full Story - 19 years ago

In particular, see this reply: to this: And you may want to check/ read my links. Now, does Anthony say in these exact words, "I admit I have read no one on math besides Gillings"? No. Is it reasonable to conclude after reading his comments that he has not? Yes. He was directly asked about others he read, including Neugebauer and could not recall if he had

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Gillings - The Full Story - 19 years ago

Anthony Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Joanne Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > So, you argue for Gillings because he uses > > Neugebauer > > > No, I agree with Gillings because his evidence and > logic support his conclusion. Anthony, I'm afraid the problem is that by

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

Hi Ritva, > Exactly! > We see the opposites in back and white, whereas > the Egyptians saw the polarity in red and white, > but paralleled red to yellow and black to green! And the black and green is not a minor point; this is explains the Black land as the (green) fertile land. > The idea behind the use of a certain colour > differs from ours… totally. Red h

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: New Research on Voynich Manuscript - 19 years ago

I'd be interested to know what you finally learn. I don't know much about this (it hadn't been invented when I studied linguistics ), but the article you linked to makes me curious to know more as well as more about this manuscript.

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

Ritva Kurittu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Shouldn't we keep in mind that the ancient > Egyptians expressed themselves differently from > us. Yes! The fact that their language was written with > pictures certainly differs from our language, > because it is based on visual concepts. And because languages deal with colors d

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Gillings - The Full Story - 19 years ago

So, you argue for Gillings because he uses Neugebauer and you haven't actually read Neugebauer yourself? Have you ever thought of taking notes and writing down the name of the author and whatever they have written that you are reading? Scholars often do that. They list all references in what are called "bibliographies." That way, they can go to their bibliography and look for

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: rmT.t - 19 years ago

Hi Avry, I'd be interested in your thoughts here.

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: New Research on Voynich Manuscript - 19 years ago

Thanks for a very interesting read. I wonder now too why someone should be so interested in proving this to be a hoax.

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Gillings - The Full Story - 19 years ago

I have Gillings' book right here...I may have been the one who told John ( ) Wall about it. How much of Neugebauer's work have you actually read, Anthony?

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: New Research on Voynich Manuscript - 19 years ago

Hi Joe, Maybe I'm missing something here, but your statement "the document is supposed to be much older than even the earliest encryption techniques that could produce such a result (the encryption techniques known at the time would be crackable by statistical analysis)" doesn't make sense to me. Was the Navajo Code of WWII developed with "encryption techniques"?

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: Gillings - The Full Story - 19 years ago

Hi Wayne, I agree with you that the Rhind is not necessarily a comphrehensive treatise on Egyptian mathematical knowledge, and that we don't know who wrote it, why it was written, how representative it was, how it was used, etc. What I don't like about Gillings -- besides the fact that he is an older source who worked with outdated material -- is that he sounds too much like Otto Ne

by Joanne - Ancient History

Re: More Kim Parker facts - 19 years ago

I wonder if all those details are true...She would have been very young at Auschwitz and young children didn't last too long...maybe she was in for only a short time at the end? Or maybe she lied about her age? The polio is also remarkable. Most people who spend three years in bed didn't make full recoveries. I think the faster the recovery, the better the prognosis for full rec

by Joanne - Paper Lens

Re: Kim propriety - 19 years ago

Martin Stower Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can’t remember ever seeing it for sale, but now > that you mention it, I begin to imagine that I did > see it advertised in the other DC comics. It may > be that supply of such things was still haphazard: > it was more a matter of buying what the shop had > on the shelf than taking any ti

by Joanne - Paper Lens

Re: Kim Parker facts - 19 years ago

Martin Stower Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Joanne Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Of course! It's that Aboriginal > > French-Polish-Czech thing!! > > Theses might be written (and doubtless have been) > on the politics of such choices in the depiction > of ethnicity.

by Joanne - Paper Lens

Re: World Without End: PS - 19 years ago

To each, his (or her) own! I cannot believe that nobody even bid on Babaji's slightly soiled magical garments -- I mean, how often are you offered a chance to purchase a priceless treasure?? And who would not want all their bodies healed by being turned into a pretzel and experiencing true joy? What's wrong with people today, anyway? As for these cards and the posters, etc.

by Joanne - Paper Lens