Many people on this board ignore valid criticism of whatever they come to allegedly discuss...
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Joanne
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Ancient History
The earth wobbles. If you check some astronomy sites, you should be able to find sites that illustrate it.
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Joanne
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Laboratory
Hi Don,
I'm not sure I understand your question at the end...do you mean 45 degrees east of north and 45 east of south? Those two are not opposites.
My personal opinion, based on later orientations, is that the sunrise or set at certain times of the year were involved. That would give them shadows to use as aids.
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Joanne
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Laboratory
As I said in another thread, no one is forced to read any thread. When all the Talpiot tomb threads were going on, people complained about them too. Why not start a thread on a topic that interests you rather than complaining about threads that other people may be enjoying?
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Joanne
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Ancient History
It looks like Akhenaten to me.
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Joanne
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Humanities
You're right, Sue, but it goes back much further than that. There was a tradition of Egypt being mysterious and being the source of all knowledge that was held by the ancient Greeks. It continued through European history.
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Joanne
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Coffee Shop
Hello back atcha Don et al,
what does alignment with true north have to do with what was in the sky, though? If they aligned with the sun or stars, the associated directions would have been unintended consequences. If the site were aligned with true north at a much earlier time, what difference does it make what was in the sky at the time of Khufu?
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Joanne
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Laboratory
Oops - 19 years ago
I should have read your post before I posted...
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Joanne
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Ancient History
The "Thanksgiving feast" was held in Boston, not Jamestown...
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Joanne
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Ancient History
Agreed. I think anyone who wants to make a case for a purely fictious Jesus needs to have a good explanation of the origin and creation of the stories. A completely fictious Jesus is possible, though, like you and Roxana, I think it's unlikely for all the reasons we've discussed. To make the case, one has to deal with the alleged creators and their culture at a much deeper level than
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Joanne
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Ancient History
If participants in a thread want to continue a conversation, what's the problem? Not everyone is going to be interested in every thread.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
Why would a bunch of poor, uneducated Galilean fisherman come up with a not particularly Jewish myth and then invent someone to be its lead character after the fact?? It makes no sense...
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Joanne
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Ancient History
And my point is that your focus has nothing whatsoever to do with my point.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
And also, I've never seen any reply to your point about Jesus' followers and their ability (let alone motive) to concoct a myth (particularly this myth) and then "invent" a man to fill it.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
I still have not seen you engage in any discussion with anyone in which you address the points they raise with specific factual material. You simply assert, reassert, and assert again. Furthermore, in the time you take to reply -- often within seconds -- it's clear that you are not considering what others are saying.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
This is exactlty the kind of non-response that kills discussion. Bye.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
Is anyone being forced to read threads that do not interest them?
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Joanne
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Ancient History
I haven't seen you address any points with facts. If I've missed your posts, please provide links.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
You go in circles with this, though. It all started somewhere. The point that a real man was behind it all makes sense to many of us. If you are convinced a myth came first, then show us. Where are the roots, where is your evidence for your opinion? Answer some of the points we all brought up in the last few discussions -- starting with the original followers of Jesus and how they could have
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Joanne
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Ancient History
That's your opinion; it's not fact! You continue to argue by assertion and you refuse to address points that other people raise that challenge your assertions.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
Your reply to him was not a non-sequitur; it was a red herring.
If you recognize the difference between the theological arguments about the nature of Christ vs. the historicity of Jesus, and you acknowledge that the groups you mention DID NOT deny his historicity, then why not just deal with the rest of Rick's post?
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Joanne
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Ancient History
Hi Don
Just for the record, I didn't say or suggest that the Southern Cross was 45 degrees due SW of anything...you asked me about 45 degrees east of due north and about 135 degrees west of due north. 135 degrees west of due north is 45 degrees west of due south. I looked at rising and setting stars; it is possible to consider stars higher in the sky if you are looking for star alignmen
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Joanne
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Laboratory
The Israel Museum unveiled a unique 2,200-year-old stele (inscribed stone block) on May 3 that provides new insight into the dramatic story of Heliodorus and the Temple in Jerusalem, as related in the Second Book of Maccabees.
"The Heliodorus stele is one of the most important and revealing Hellenistic inscriptions from Israel," said James S. Snyder, Anne and Jerome Fisher Director
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Joanne
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Ancient History
Don
How exact? At Giza, 45 degrees east of due north, Vega and Altair are the closest and brightest rising. The Southern Cross and alpha and beta Centauri set about 135 degrees west of due north in 2500 BCE.
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Joanne
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Laboratory
Well, unless you buy the idea that kings were sacrificed at times...in which case, semi-divinity was not such a plus.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
What does that mean?
You wrote: This divinity never carried any negative connotations, and it may be due to even the human body being an expression of the divine.
I consider being struck blind by a god (or any other unpleasant punishment) to be a negative -- and the blindee was lamenting his sin, underscoring the negativity he was apparently experiencing.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
What about the man who was blinded by Ptah for blasphemy?
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Joanne
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Ancient History
Thanks, I wrote it backwards, but I see you figured it out anyway.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
barry Wrote:
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> Ironically, the skeptics (like the religious
> acolytes they disdain) don't even seem to
> understand why they still ridicule Velikovsky.
> Velikovsky, in the 1940s and 1950s, had very
> influential friends and was part of the media
> elite. He was known as student of Freud. He was a
> fre
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Joanne
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Ancient History
Don,
Where is your theory? Can you please post a link if it is online? Thanks.
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Joanne
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Ancient History
