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"Quest for Fire"? Right, there wa only 2 other people in the theatre when I saw that......
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Greywacke from Wadi Hammamat eastern quarry:
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There is a thinsection microphotograph of the dacite in fig. 1 in Liritzis et. al. (2008). It looks like metagreywacke.... sand sized particles (0.06-0.2 mm) for quartz, felsic and intermediate volcanic rock fragments, plagioclase, muscovite, epidote, calcite, all in an ultra fine-grained sericite and chlorite matrix... often mistaken for basalt in Egyptology. Somewhat similar mineralogy to that
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On page 171-175 there is a bit about a block of "Egyptian alabaster" found in the Sphinx temple....... an elaborate tail is then spun about it. At least Temple (2010) correctly identifies "Egyptian alabaster" as travertine.... then the fun begins. Travertine is actually a type of limestone (sedimentary rock) that forms from the precipitation of calcite from groundwater in op
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Martin Stower Wrote:
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>One guess which bowl he illustrates.
Ya, the one made of schist..... minus the 2nd "s" and the "c" and I don't mean to insinuate anything about the poor innocent bowl in that... it's already taken enough abuse. :-)
Temple (2010) has admitted to looking at Aston (1994) so he rea
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Ya, they seemingly got answers for everything stuck up their sleeves... at least until they get caught and then suddenly it disappears, thus the ever evolving convoluted mess that even confuses them sometimes. If I remember correctly, the slurry is like an adobe-like paste carried up in bags... so when they slop it into the molds on the pyramid the advanced AE artistic skills can accurately mimic
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Thanks for the quote..... I got this book from the library this morning and as always I first look up diorite and schist and see how badly they mangle it..... wasn't at all surprised.
>Would you believe that
>Temple castigates Vyse for self-promotion?
Well, the sky is blue after all...... unlike t
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I noticed the geopolymer pyramid crowds' pundits have recently been promoting the idea of "super cements" beyond what we can achieve today (an attempt, I guess to get around anyone mentioning the now clearly disclosed ridiculously low cement chemistry of one of their previous key pieces of evidence which is completely inconsistent with their long held "beliefs" about such
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A number of fringe authors have admitted publicly to "gross exaggeration" of their data in this regards.... passing it off as a good-faith "mistake. Specifically in regards to the claims of 100s of 200+ ton blocks in Khafre's Valley temple.
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Looks like the 3rd video and they were behind and to the south of Menkaure's pyramid within 600-800 m. More than quite obscene, but it does looks like they were really there.....
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When they panned the camera it was clear they were in a hole with a sand berm blocking the view from any accidental spectators and were on the Giza Plateau. Did a search... I think it was the 2nd in this series.
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Ya, they were all over the place in Egypt, it was a 3 video series revolving around the reincarnated pharaoh and his queen, in this case they dug a hole in the sand behind the GP, it was quite visible in the background.... again, as I was told. They were really close, like 500-600 meters away. I have to assume they were given official permission to do that....
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;-) Yes, it was on the News, understandably it got not only the religious fanatics up in arms, but everyone else and the Goverment banned filming in Egypt for a while as a result...
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Ya, that's it.... reminded me of that porn movie that was made about 20 years ago with the Giza pyramids in the background of one of the performances....
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Here in North America there was a cheap soap-opera/fake-reality TV show last year about Egyptology and Dr. Hawass (I mean really cheap!). It involved 2-3 "exchange students" and other "experts" chronically the daily life of Dr. Hawass. In one show, a few "students" and Hawass went up not the Relieving Chamber and one of the students was portrayed to wet her pants so
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There is an ideal pressure for a given abrasive and lapping medium.... Stocks says it is about 1 kg per cm^2 for quartz. It's the speed of the bit that determines the cutting rate.
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MJ Thomas 2 Wrote:
>Excellent!
>Many thanks for resolving this issue for me (and
>perhaps a few other folk).
>I'm feeling rather pleased with myself for
>hazarding 47 holes for the perimeter - only 3 more
>than Stock's 44.
>I didn't think of drilling more holes into the
>interior area; however, might these holes not have
>been really necessary
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Lathe is like a wheel.... the pole lathe is an adaptation of the bow drill.
Considering that during the New Kingdom it is known they sent petty criminals to a stint of polish granite statues..... I suspect we can get a pretty good idea who was hand spinning a lathe if such was used.
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The GPs granite portcullis blocking slabs (particularly the fragment on the outside of the GP near the original entrance) has the best core holes I have seen from the OK. Nice smooth, parallel sides for most of the cut, a little rough and conical at the top. It's is pretty clear the drill was stabilized in this case. The 3 cores from the above example were about 3 inches and vary slightly in
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Stocks (1999) proposes the perimeter is cut out with 44 holes..... the interior is weakened with another 18 in two rows of 9 holes. The remaining waste rock is removed by percussion and such.
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Sirfiroth Wrote:
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>Hi Archae,
>I am a big fan of old tools and technology, it is
>my hobby!
>It remains, you did not answer my specific
>questions, maybe you just didn't know the answer!
Just could not be bothered looking it up....... the question was completely pointless as most fringe contrivances are......
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I did answer it.... go read Stocks (1999, 2001, 2003). We always get the "ramblings" excuse from those who need to be repeatedly corrected for their lack of factual information (I have only so much time to do it, so next time save me the wasted effort).... come back when you have actually read the cited articles and made more of an effort to understand them.... at least you got an answe
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I think a lot of this is coming from Petrie's lack of understanding of the subject at the time he wrote the above. He continued to assert such, but less forcefully in a later book on stone vessel making.
Rock lathes can be pretty simple and hand-powered, be it a pole lathe or otherwise.... I've always been for "Innovation through Necessity" so I would not put it past the OK
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Sirfiroth Wrote:
>I did read Denys Stocks paper and it does does
>leave several unanswered questions but I will ask
>only one at this time:
I will take it you read it after you cited your quoted link above.......
>When it comes to finishing
>a box of this size with an inside depth of 29.60
>inches, how do you maintain a corner radius of
>less than 1/2 inch.
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Really..... "55 thousand inches of drilling"?
The core bit was 11 cm in diameter and 5mm in thickness, not 2" in diameter or whatever it is so "expertly" asserted in your above quoted article...... as pointed out by Stocks (1999) a minimum of 62 holes is required to hollow out the interior.
Apparently neither the author nor you saw the coring drill tool mark on the
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Really.... "25 years"?
The author of that above qoute should have relied on Stocks (1999) rather than the 2 fringe sources actually cited. Stocks (1999) suggests it would have taken less then 2 years to make the Khufu sarcophagus using 62 hole method based on his research and experimentation....
Stocks, D.A. (1999) Stone sarcophagus manufacture in ancient Egypt. Antiquity, 73, 918
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Sirfiroth Wrote:
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>Hi Archae,
>Archae Solenhofen wrote: but they can ramp them to
>one of the lower courses and then ramp them onto
>each of the courses above as they are being
>constructed so the end up where they wanted them
>for the proposes of constructing the King
>Chamber?
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>That sounds like main
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Yes, the second of such should have originally been "can't".... however, I think my unfortunate "can" is a better choice now after your post, since a "can't".... would just be silly at this point.
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Let me get this straight the AE can move the blocks from the quarry at Aswan to the Nile, all the way from Aswan to Giza, unload them in the Nile valley, move them up onto the Plateau..... but they can ramp them to one of the lower courses and then ramp them onto each of the courses above as they are being constructed so the end up where they wanted them for the proposes of constructing the King
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Are you saying that the method I just proposed above is incapable of moving the 50-60 ton granite blocks to the Kings Chamber using a known 4th dynasty technology level? I did not see any of the ramp deniers come up with that simple method (I mean ever! no one including popular fringe authors and "great scientist"s with wonderful alternative theories ever did... at least, in some cases,
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