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Or merely comatose?
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/375217-vyses-secret-cache-the-proof/page/8
Watch this space if you have nothing better to do.
M.
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mstower Wrote:
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> https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/375217-vyses-secret-cache-the-proof/page/7/#comment-7736738
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> I would not myself rely on it in navigating the
> tricky waters of the truth.
>
> M.
A post mocking “Ellison’s” chart has disappeared. So have some others.
M.
Edited 2024-04-2
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/375217-vyses-secret-cache-the-proof/page/7/#comment-7736738
I would not myself rely on it in navigating the tricky waters of the truth.
M.
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mstower
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mstower Wrote:
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> . . . would combine “in my opinion” and “almost
> certainly” in qualifying a statement?
>
> https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/375217-vyses-secret-cache-the-proof/page/7/#comment-7736174
Some would say that “almost” is a mitigator and that therefore “almost certainly” is a disclaimer. But
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mstower
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. . . would combine “in my opinion” and “almost certainly” in qualifying a statement?
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/375217-vyses-secret-cache-the-proof/page/7/#comment-7736174
Sorry, Scott, but putting “IMO” in front of it does not disguise the fact that you are making things up.
As for this, I dealt with it here.
Creighton’s repeating his mantra-dogma and parading
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mstower
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“So long as the stone of Brutus is safe, so long shall London flourish.” This is just one of the legends associated with London Stone, a dull lump of rock now displayed in Cannon Street in the City of London. The history of this unprepossessing stone is intertwined with the history and legends of London itself…
J via M.
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mstower
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Ancient History
This seems to be the same group:
The vertical line is very clearly a painted line and not a block boundary (as seen at left).
M.
Edited 2024-03-09: trying Flickr.
Edited 2024-04-25: trying ImgBB.
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mstower
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No, the non-cartouche name Hor Medjedu was unknown.
M.
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mstower
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Ancient Egypt
Comments on the article are closed.
M.
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mstower
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Hermione Wrote:
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> Some authors still continue to refer to Humphries
> Brewer's alleged witnessing of the supposed
> forgery in the Great Pyramid -
Could it be satire?
M.
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mstower
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Paper Lens
I am glad to see bees doing so well.
M.
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mstower
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Coffee Shop
This appears to have been added:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vLxg2PLZb8&t=1547
“. . . From a study of all of Mr Hill’s drawings, it appears that he used his signature, as a means to record, and lock in the orientation of a particular group of signs, as they appeared on a particular block of stone. . . .”
Says Creighton, when what he actually shows us is that a study of (all of)
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mstower
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Ancient Egypt
. . . but no strong incentive just now to say it.
M.
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mstower
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Ancient Egypt
This is funny.
Here is why Creighton can’t find this group of characters in Perring and Rowe:
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/9/#comment-7572750
Creighton has a theory about Hill’s signature. His theory tells him to look for a horizontal inscription. He can’t find it—naturally not, as it is not horizontal
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mstower
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https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?8,1284452,1320298#msg-1320298
M.
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mstower
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Ancient Egypt
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/9/#comment-7572750
What we have here is yet another case in which the evidence of drawings is in conflict: which is commonplace and banal and utterly unimportant.
The only reason this is here is Creighton’s impulse to carry on adding bad arguments, through lack of confidence in h
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mstower
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Just to make this explicitly clear . . .
This is from page 2 of Möller, Hieratische Paläographie, Erster Band, published in 1909:
As source of the 4th-dynasty characters shown, he specified “LD II” i.e. Lepsius, Denkmaeler, Abtheilung II. So he certainly saw this:
—and he certainly copied characters from the two large horizontal cartouches we see at a and c.
M.
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mstower
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http://www.gizapyramids.org/static/pdf%20library/reisner_gn_books/mycerinus/plan_11to12.pdf
The crew names of Menkaure were written in horizontal format, with horizontal cartouches.
On the argument he was advancing five minutes ago, Creighton would have to add these to the list of Vyse’s “forgeries”—that, or posit a multigenerational Egyptological plot. (He has seemed sometimes in the past
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/9/#comment-7571368
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?8,1285885,1285948#msg-1285948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Zn3M-WMzM
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1149177,1149625#msg-1149625
M.
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mstower
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Corvidius Wrote:
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> I suspect that we are not meant to work it out so
> he cannot be pinned down with his ever changing
> goalposts. His latest posts almost show the gears
> turning in his mind, and I suspect that in the
> future, Khaemwaset, not previously on his radar it
> seems, will figure in the contortions surro
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mstower
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All of these Dynasty IV, according to Lepsius:
http://edoc3.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/lepsius/page/abt2/band3/image/02030090.jpg
http://edoc3.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/lepsius/page/abt2/band3/image/02030110.jpg
http://edoc3.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/lepsius/page/abt2/band3/image/02030150.jpg
http://edoc3.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/lepsius/page/abt2/band3/image/02030160.jpg
http://edoc3.bibl
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mstower
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As seen in Lepsius, the one with the long and short horizontal cartouches:
M.
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/9/#comment-7571216
This line in bullshit was dealt with long since:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1149177,1152282#msg-1152282
His judgement on who is “eminent” or “esteemed” is curiously selective and idiosyncratic:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,
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mstower
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Corvidius Wrote:
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> Humour, I've noticed that it does not sit well
> with the fringe, or any type of troll.
That the fringe is deeply humourless accords with my experience. No one becomes a fringer, who has a sense of humour. (Hypothesis to be tested.) Accounts perhaps for the “aliens” sequence in Life of Brian.
M.
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/9/#comment-7570938
Scott mistakes making up stories for establishing truth. This is the narrative fallacy.
Why is he asking questions which have already been answered? He would of course tell us that the answers weren’t “convincing”—a hedge which he imagines lets him off the ho
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/9/#comment-7570652
Möller presented no such chronology. You read this into notations which have no such function. Your getting this entirely wrong makes no difference? Yeah, sure.
M.
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mstower
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Corvidius Wrote:
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> Yes, I noticed that when I googled Möller’s book
> and saw the "unredacted" full version. Context,
> full context, a big thing in Ancient Egypt I
> think.
Even I was bamboozled at first. It “looked like” the cartouches had been given their own table and it “looked like” a chronological sequen
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mstower
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mstower Wrote:
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> Looking again at Möller’s tables, I see that he
> generally marked his hieroglyphic examples
> with a Dynasty number.
>
> At 534, we see the ankh. It is marked “Dyn. 4.”
>
> Any suggestion that the ankh did not exist
> until Dynasty 4 would be dubious in the extreme
> and actually just
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Squash - 12 months ago
Corvidius Wrote:
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> Not being an expert, would I be right in saying
> that Möller is not suggesting that only vertical
> cartouches were used in the 4th Dynasty, and your
> examples clearly show otherwise, but that he is
> simply using a 4th Dynasty vertical example to
> show the evolution of the hieratic vertical
&g
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mstower
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Corvidius Wrote:
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> I've read the post of yours, and it really
> demolish Creighton's argument, and that is
> probably why he did not respond, or at least not
> directly. I would put what he is doing in another
> way, deliberate and cynical cherry picking out of
> context, and blathering, lots of blathering,
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