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Hermione Wrote:
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Hans_lune Wrote:
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> ...or is it modern art?
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Byrd has precisely nailed this, though I will just add that it represents the rejoining of the soul with the body, of Ra that is of course. The actual mechanics of now Ra and Sokar-Osiris "merge" is, apart from on the second shrine of Tutankhamun, which is, er, enigma
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> All of these Dynasty IV, according to Lepsius:
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> http://edoc3.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/lepsius/page/abt2/band3/image/02030090.jpg
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Hermione Wrote:
> Unless he has now come to believe that there were
> two cataclysms? I don't find it easy to work out
I suspect that we are not meant to work it out so he cannot be pinned down with his ever changing goalposts. His latest posts almost show the gears turning in his mind, and I suspect that in the future, Khaemwaset, not previously on his radar it seems, will figur
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mstower Wrote:
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> https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/9/#comment-7570938
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> Scott mistakes making up stories for
> establishing truth. This is the
> narrative
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> Why is he asking questions which have already been
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> > Looking again at Möller’s tables, I see that he
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> > At 534, we see the ankh. It is marked “Dyn.
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&g
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I've read the post of yours, and it really demolish Creighton's argument, and that is probably why he did not respond, or at least not directly. I would put what he is doing in another way, deliberate and cynical cherry picking out of context, and blathering, lots of blathering, word salad, puffing up and so on.
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Thanks for providing these examples of horizontal cartouches from the 4th Dynasty. I knew they existed, but could not lay my hands on linkable examples.
What it seems Creighton is doing then is taking Möller somewhat out of context, and why use a book that is over a hundred years old anyway, why not a newer work. It's rather like the well known "geyser guy" using Mercer's t
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Hermione Wrote:
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> > > A phrase he used earlier is “master source”:
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> https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1033609/pg5#pid18469685
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> > Typical
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> It’s a curious ambivalence. The “establishment”
> is derided and vilified and yet expected to be
> perfect. In loco parentis? Good thing for
> Creighton that Freud is no longer in vogue.
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> M.
If Freud is out, then maybe, with acknowledgement to Hornung and Abt, "Creighton's journey through the Netherworld, a Jungian analysis of self deception"
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> A phrase he used earlier is “master source”:
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> https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1033609/pg5#pid18469685
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> M.
Typical fringe overblown phraseology, like "Hall of Records", and never any sign of this source, ever.
I looked at the link and read a few pages, enough to see how slippery he is, and I'll admit, fast footed, a prime requirement for
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I've missed most of this excitement over the years, mostly due to being stuck in the Amarna tarpits, not without it's own excitement of course.
It looks, in a broad way, that what has happened is that Creighton has decided, for whatever reasons, selling books springs to mind, that a round hole is square, and that he has spent over a decade, including his fantasies about the purpose
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Not being fully up to speed on all aspects of this affair, I would like to know if the long and detailed review on Amazon by Larry Pahl of Creighton's book is correct in it's details, specifically about a "secret stash" of Egyptian writings that Creighton alleges Vyse had found, thus enabling him to know the Horus name of Khufu. I have not read Creighton's book, and am un
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Thanks for those links, they show what goes on under the surface, and how down right dishonest and sneaky the fringe are. I've been aware of some odd editing on wiki before, but never had the time nor inclination to delve deeper into who does this and why, apart from propaganda and malicious intent to subvert reality.
One interesting fact from the links is that the name Lorraine Evans com
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I've never been able to read all the posts on this topic over the years, mostly not wanting to loose any more brain cells, but I do have an impression that Creighton is deliberately avoiding the propensity of the AE for alternate spellings and spelling errors. This goes with it being obvious, to me at least, that most, if not all of the fringe, have zero interest in Ancient Egypt, only in th
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Yes, nausea inducing presentations from an intellectually dishonest charlatan. I hope I'm allowed to say that here as I know it would get censured on the equally nauseating thread, one of several recently, in another place. I'll give credit, if that's the word, to Creighton for being inventive and having very good forum debating skills, particularly in distraction and mental projec
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I've read that and agree with much of it. The issue here for me though is that saying mummifed person and not just mummy is pedantic and ridiculous. This was why in my previous post I said that if they really wanted to respect the dead, then they should not use the word mummy or mummified at all, as it is just an Anglicised version of the Arabic mumiya, their word for bitumen, used, as I
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Of course "mummy" is the name everybody knows and uses about them, but this story just shows how ignorant, arrogant and bullying these woke something somethings are. They say they want to respect the dead, yet still use the word mummified, or rather in English, bitumenized, I guess. If they really wanted to respect the dead they would call the remains a sah, and rebury them, but they wo
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> 'In fact, each pyramid ensured the
> rule of universal order, the turning of the days
> and seasons, and the flooding of the Nile. The
> mechanics of the pyramid as cosmic engine depended
> on the Egyptians concept of a person and the
> distinct phases of life and death, called Kheperu.
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Hermione Wrote:
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> The Salima ikram reference: Death and Burial in
> Ancient Egypt 2003: 45.
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> But I couldn't find the Hornung one ...
Knowledge for the Afterlife - The Egyptian Amduat - A Quest for Immortality. 2003 page 24
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> There's a good case to be made that Osiris dates
> as far back as early-dynastic Egypt... but nothing
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> "The PT, as well as the CT and other later texts,
> call Horus a son of Osiris-Orion and
> Sothis-Isis-Hathor. Osiris and Isis are not
> attested before Dynasty V.
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How can we know that Akhenaten faced judgement before Osiris. A damnatio memoriae is a form of judgement on them, but by the living, not Osiris. In all the multiple texts there is nothing that deals with a "rogue king".
The presence of Osiris in the royal funeral text "road maps" can be implicit rather than explicit, and this is the case with the Amduat. In the Book of Gate
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All the dead become an Osiris, but do not become Osiris. The Coffin Texts, including the Book of Two Ways, and then the later Book of the Dead are guides for commoners to get to Osiris and to be judged, and how to respond to the questions in order to pass judgement. The king does not stand in front of Osiris to be judged, he gets a free pass. I'm sure this much will be agreed upon. So, what
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> There's a limited preview here -
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Yeah, thanks for the link, though I must admit that I have the hard copy, so am aware that Osiris may have been around in the 3rd Dynasty. But given what I am suggesting I thought it best not to get too i
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Mark Heaton Wrote:
> In my opinion the concept was of the sun rising as
> a sphere from primordial earth, so the Great
> Pyramid represented that sphere, because Khufu
> envisaged an after-life with the sun-god.
I very much like this comment.
All the maths go straight over my head so I cannot make any worthwhile comment on that aspect, however, I do have a very small amount
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Okay, I'll put it this way. In a Hindu household, and business, you are likely to find images of one or more of their major gods, Shiva, Vishnu, Devi, Ganesh. So the most important gods are worshipped in the home as well as the temple and are accesible for all. What gods are we likely to find in the average Egyptian household, Bes, Taweret, Bastet, and in later times, Horus in his Harpocrate
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Yes, I keep forgetting to look at Hinduism as it's really the only analogue for the AE. Though I get the impression that there is greater inclusiveness in their religion in the sense that, as far as I know, all of the gods are for all of the people, while the main Egyptian gods were not, for the most part, for the people, so that Hinduism may have greater strength in depth, if that makes sen
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A bit to one side, what intrigues me is that from our perspective living far into their future, were we can easliy fall into the trap of "concertinering" 3,000 years of history, we find that important gods became "popular" only in later times, Osiris being the main one. And here we have Ptah known from the 3rd Dynasty, fitfully mentioned in the MK and NK, and suddenly he is a
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I've not read the entire thread, so what I am about to say may have already appeared in some form or other. Having needed to research Imhotep for a conversation elsewhere, it very quickly became evident that we know nothing about Imhotep other than his name and titles which appear on the base of a statue of Djoser, and on a wall of the unfinished pyramid of Sekhemkhet. Everything thing else,
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