Eh?
Kidding ourselves that a politician will, sometimes quite literally, say or do *anything* to get elected?
Kidding ourselves that Lincoln made statements to mollify proslavers/racists without actually being definitive about his own beliefs?
oh wait, he was a politician, they are never definitive to their own beliefs... until they get elected.
So who is kidding who... when you *vote
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"Does not "refute" or change the content of the numerous racists statments ,any more than the belief that "all men are created equal ..."
Like I said earlier... to 'refute' is to prove the inaccuracy of. See earlier post.
The proclamation certainly did that.
To change the content of previous statements?
The past is immutable. Anyone who argues that i
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Did you even glance at the link I posted?
Here, I'll help with a small quote:
"that Lincoln publicly rejected his earlier views."
As for your quotes, which ones are you saying are from his last five years of life?
"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality "
"I agree with
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I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are ignoring the chronological perspective of your quote.
I'm also rapidly coming to the conclusion that your arguements shift as you need them to.
There is a multifolded question inherent in your comments..
1) Was Lincoln pro-slavery at any point in his life?
2) Did Lincoln change his stance on slavery at any point in his life?
3
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I'm sorry but I am confused - having read first the larger thread then this smaller thread...
Nowhere did I see dats/times on these quotes (and I lack the time to investigate them all), but it would appear that Lincoln either a) evolved over time or b) said whatever was needed in order to get elected, then acted in opposite manner from what was said.
The first is natural human maturati
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Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> I agree with both points Jammer. The "Home on the
> Range" scenario is well be about as obsolete, as I
Obsolete? Not anytime soon, although numbers indicate someday it will have to be (my kids generation will be the first to see world population TRIPLE in their lifetimes - mine was the first to see
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What of the other questions I raised?
quote:
This - this boggles my mind. How can a daily wage be cheaper than room & board... unless you are starving the worker and treating them as less than a slave? Unless there was a tax on owning slaves vs employing workers?
Also - how was it that the Romans found it cheaper to employ slaves as opposed to workers or machinery?
I can accep
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Pros have been well stated.
Cons?
Hackers.
Big Brother issues
Loss of Privacy (seen Amazon Echo yet? <<shudder>> and I still want one)
Google glasses... they actually looked kinda cute. Lacked 'proper' marketing to make them sell well (see apple i series from the days when it wasn't a phone ;0 )
That, and they were too... conspicuous. Everyone looking at y
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Jammer Wrote:
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> Here you go,
>
> > "In the Caribbean islands of Antigua and
> Bermuda the plantation owners realized that it was
>
> > cheaper to pay a daily wage than to feed and
> house their apprentices (ex-slaves)."
>
>
>
> Jammer
This - this boggles my mind. How can
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An arguement could (in theory) be constructed around the number 12, the use of which for 'groups' of gods seem to almost predate Greek culture. I also dimly recall (but not sure if it was fiction or nonfiction source) something about the number 3 to do with the titans as well.
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We need no further warning than our own history.
Can anyone cite *any* incident of a technologically superior culture encountering an inferior culture on Earth that turned out well?
All well and good to have hope and be an optimist in the search for aliens, that they would be *better* than us in some way, but truly can't we learn from our own history and not be quite so very very trust
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I'd agree more w/ spinning nuetron stars, and put man made spy satellites as second...
The power isn't really an issue with n-stars, nor is the cycle (they are rather regular little time keepers) but the article implies there are multiple sources, all with the same common denominator (if I read that right) which kinda excludes a n-star, as they are each unique not all operating on th
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Hmm... it seems to me like it would be (from most primitive to more advanced) something like this:
tree branch into caves into overhangs into large 'leantos' made from trees to primitive lodges (circular or rectangular).
Are there any examples of pyramidical or conical (is that a word?) shelters that would fit between massive lean-to' and primitive lodges?
I can think only
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Hi Rick ;0
I'm not a YEC, I'm an evolutionist to my ancestral bones and my neanderthal chromosomes.
But, I do like to theorycraft...
In this case, I wonder if the rising waters pushed oxygen levels upwards?
Or perhaps, the increased water (H2O) provided add'l oxygen? Hope no one lit up a spark...
Wait, that raises another question... where did the water come from? T
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Roxana Cooper Wrote:
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> According to Grandpa the exact nature of
> electricity is not understood by scientists. I
> find that hard to believe but would my Grandpa lie
> to me? Apparently we know how to make use of it
> but not what it IS. And as you say most of us
> don't even know that much!
>
> Hey,
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marehart Wrote:
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> OK. Point is, it's still begs the question:
> "where did the dark energy come from?"
> Is an endless, fruitless quest to find a
> conceptual model for an imponderable i.e.
> eternity.
'begging the question'...
"Begging the question (or petitio principii, "assumi
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Roxana Cooper Wrote:
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> They're little furry devils aren't they? I've
> bought two or three 'squirrel proof' bird feeders
> in my time - and they got into them all.
My dad and I made some when I was younger. First few designs failed, unfortunately.
Perseverance paid off though. A pole about 8
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Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> No, the cat has the overwhelming advantage with 44
> escape points on the perimeter. You're lucky to
> plug up one point at a time. If the cat changes
> directions you've burned up a lot of time filling
> those holes. But like you said, this a complete
> waste of time, but fascinating ne
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Khazar-khum Wrote:
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> Project Blue Book. Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio
> has all the files. Every now & then they put
> up displays of cases they reviewed. It's
> interesting how often they came up with "Unknown".
Actually, I was referring to the predecessors of blue book, although I'll admit I had
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Roxana Cooper Wrote:
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> There very fact that these projects are known -
> and mythologized - pretty much proves my point
> about government 'secrecy'.
>
> And, Sans, admitting that there are sightings of
> aerial phenomena we cannot explain is a LONG way
> from hiding evidence of Extra-terrestrials!
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Roxana Cooper Wrote:
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> Come on people, this is OUR government - they just
> aren't good enough to hide a secret that big that
> must be known to so many people!
Disclaimer: I am, in no way, a conspiracy theorist...
But I can theorize on conspiracies
If the number of people who actually *know* a truth are fairly
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I agree with Rick.
Using robots for biohazard testing is an interesting concept... except that chemical detectors are extremely advanced and don't require a full bi-pedal exoskeleton.
Testing range of movement in a suit is better done by a HUMAN who can move in unpredictable ways.
The premise is flawed and I can think of no logical explanation for the desiring of a robot in suit mov
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"Instead, the idea is to test equipment such as chemical and biohazard suits without having to ask for volunteers. Since the robot can mimic movement more realistically it can tell testers whether a suit (or other piece of equipment) works well before they try it out on real soldiers."
<<blink>>
Since when is a volunteer more expensive than a robot??
Fishy sounding
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This is a fascinating paper:
The whole concept is truly fascinating. Science fiction prototyping is one thing, by my mind seriously boggles at a) corkscrewing a beam of light, and b) conceptualizing particles moving 'upstream' in a beam of light.
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Okay... so shall we write the next version of 'animal farm' based on this metaphor?
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Khazar-khum Wrote:
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> The Ant will be forced to pay taxes for grants to
> be handed out to the Grasshopper for his
> culturally relevant songs and dances.
And for the re-education camps to train the ant to appreciate the grasshopper mocking him.
And so that the government can 're-distribute' the ants wealth to the
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Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> sansahansan Wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Then, for asteroid mining, repeat the
> operation,
> > but provide a secondary receiver that again
> > focuses and reflects the sunlight into ever
> > tighter beams.
>
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Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> If I understand you correctly FWICS entropy is
> conserved for the simple reason that the expansion
> of the universe exceeds life's ability to spread
> fast enough and cause it to contract. In addition
> to that if you follow the biological food chain
> it's almost a standard that 90%
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Indeed - the man went nuts, anything could have happened (to be politically incorrect), so it's clearly not something we should condemn him for (though I am curious as to the motivations for him)
Nonetheless, shooting every last animal seems a crime to me. These animals were not exactly wild & ferocious. They are used to being in cages and hand fed. Lions for example... A simple
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Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> Hmmm...I'd like to see how you would coordinate up
> to billions of mirrors to melt an asteroid. An
> audacious concept by the way. But I prefer a more
> mundane one. Von Neuman machines. We send a robot
> to an ateroid with directions on how to mine it.
> Another refines it. Another makes p
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