Hi Kostas,
It is not what I find as speculation, it is what I find that is more than accident. Perhaps you missed the part in the other thread where the heel stone is precicly placed at 1/7 east of north with regards to the center of Stonehenge. The chances of that being placed so precicely by glacial movement is slim to none.
Temporal Epoch Calculations An Introduction to Research Consider
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Hi Kostas,
Seriously? Can I have my 7 minutes 22 seconds back? That was just more speculation!
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Jacob
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Constantinos Ragazas Wrote:
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> Hello Jacob,
>
> Thanks for the diagram. I am already deeply in
> trance just looking at it. I have no doubt you
> managed to construct a 56 sided regular polygon.
> And that alone is commentable. If you can now
> prove to us you are a Neolithic man trapped in
> time, I will tak
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Constantinos Ragazas Wrote:
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> "A recent CAD study of the holes has shown that a
> fifty-six sided polygon can be generated by the
> simple use of square and circle geometry."
>
> I like to see that! I question whether an 8 year
> old child could have figured that out, however.
> Even if they could dig the holes if someone showed
> them where to
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Hi Mark,
Mark Heaton Wrote:
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> Hi Jacob,
>
> You will see my perspective if you make a simple
> cardboard model of the truncated pyramid of the
> Bent Pyramid and then mark on the positions of
> Petrie's measurements.
>
> It seemed to me that if there was a change in the
> plan above the level of
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Hi Mark,
Mark Heaton Wrote:
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> 2. As regards the Bent Pyramid:
>
> I agree with Petrie that the intended level of the
> bend was at 90 royal cubits, and that the intended
> side-length was 360 royal cubits.
> In my opinion the slope of the truncated pyramid
> was reduced from the cotangent of 7/10 (55
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Hi Hermione,
I am curious as to why you bring this up again, since it has been discussed at length before.
Here:
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and Here:
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Is there some new evidence? What is known that at that time of discovery, the script of the text was unknown and therefore undecipherable until this last century (20th). It was not until that time the paleo Hebrew script was able to be deciphered. So i
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Hi Hermione,
Thanks, I have ordered Symbol & Magic in Egyptian Art from Amazon, it should arrive Monday. I am looking forward to reading it. Hopefully there will be more than assumptions and speculations on the pages regarding the cubit subdivisions. Any other suggestions?
Regards,
Jacob
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Hi Chris,
Thanks, I was hoping for a possible origin as to why they divided the cubit into such awkward subdivisions. Is there anything you are aware of that is a little more concrete? Most sources available seem only to be speculations in this particular area.
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Jacob
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Hi Katherine,
Thanks for the input, I have long been aware the numbers 2, 3, 4, 7 and multiples of 7 played an important role in their civilization. After reading your post it would also seem there is no definitive answer as to why they held these numbers in such high esteem. My area of interest would be the reason they chose these numbers to begin with and how they became such an integral par
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Hi All,
Does anyone know why the cubit was divided into 7 and 28 subdivisions?
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Jacob
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Paul,
I have been aware of the land subsidence along the Louisiana coast the same is also occurring here along the Texas coast. Do you have the NOAA figures of actual sea level rise?
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Jacob
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Hi Jammer,
Where did I ask Warwick to prove anything? I was not asking Warwick to prove anything, just requesting information about what evidence makes Warwick believe there was no trans-generational plan. Is it bad form to request information supporting ones statements? Without evidence all that follows is speculation and conjecture and makes any debate of this form useless!
Jammer wrote
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Hi Warwick,
Warwick L. Nixon wrote: If Khufu did have a transgenerational plan..why wasn't his eldest son part of it?
More Specificity: What evidence leads you to believe there was no trans-generational plan and Djedefre was not part of this plan?
Even if Khufu had no trans-generational plan does not say Khufu did not have some part in someone plan.
Imhotep, the first architect, to
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Warwick L Nixon Wrote:
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> cladking Wrote:
> For instance they said
> > that Isis stank. This is not consistent with
> any
> > modern religion or modern thought.
>
>
> why should the beliefs of people 4 millenia past
> be consistent with modern religion or thought??
>
> Warwick
>
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Hi MJ,
Just out of curorisity did you find any references in G1 to A = (8/9d)^2 as shown in problem #50 RMP and other problems in the Papyri?
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Jacob
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Kanga wrote: One would expect the vertical height and horizontal length of the floors of the Grand Gallery and Ascending Passage to be whole numbers of cubits
Why would you expect dimensions to be in whole numbers of cubits?
Kanga wrote: This makes the slope of the GG floor = arcsin (39/88) = 26d 18' 25";
And that is exactly wrong! Grand Gallery has a seked of 14 7/40 (14 + 1
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Kanga Wrote:
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> You cannot use sekeds for the slopes of the
> shafts; not even for the passageways. Sekeds only
> apply to the slopes of the faces.
What method did they used to calculate the slopes of the shafts and interior passageways?
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Jacob
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Mark Heaton Wrote:
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> The slope of the Grand Gallery is different from
> the slope of the Ascending Passage, and it is
> clear that the builder intended a difference, or
> used a different template.
>
> We can break the slope of both the gallery and the
> ascending passage into sections because Petrie
> gives
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Petrie notes variations from mean axis of 26º 2' 30" altitude for the ascending passageway.
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Variations from mean axis of 26º16'40" altitude of the Grand Gallery
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57 3/11 will suffice for both, 57 3/11 digits width between the ramps on the grand gallery floor. 57 3/11 / 28 = 45/22 the run-rise of a seked of 3 19/45 which supports the angle of the ascendin
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Mark Heaton Wrote:
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> I do like the idea of 40/81 as the rise/run, as an
> instruction to the builders, and I have just
> checked my research notes. This is extremely close
> to Smyth's survey.
>
> But Petrie surveyed the Ascending Passage and the
> Grand Gallery in one length and presented his
> survey
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Mark Heaton Wrote:
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> Does your perspective have any foundation in
> reason beyond pure mathematics?
Yes it does, viewing the structures from the viewpoint of their mathematics explain many of the unexplained design concepts of G1, G2, G3, Red, Bent and Meidum pyramids. The Ancient Egyptian system provides self derivation of, and
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Hi Mark,
Your intention is clear, since the Ancient Egyptians did not use angles and trigonometry, the best suggestion I can offer at this time, if you are really interested in proving to yourself and others the Ancient Egyptians were cognizant of spherical geometry, express your work in fractions and seked. It will provide meaningful clues to the methods employed and preferred by the Ancient
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Mark Heaton Wrote:
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> The measured slope of the Grand Gallery is 26
> degrees 17 minutes or thereabouts.
>
> If the build standard was accurate to 1 part in
> thousand then the slope should be this angle plus
> or minus 3 arc minutes, which corresponds to a
> rise of 28 digits and a run somewhere between
> 56
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Not quite sure what you are asking, but indulge me for a moment,if you will? If you are looking for spherical components of G1 the of the Grand Gallery confirms a pattern within the mathematics of G1 and the Ancient Egyptians that demonstrates the basic thought processes of the Ancient Egyptian Mathematician.
The Grand Gallery is 88 cubits in length which is also 88 * 7 = 616 palms and 616 *
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Mark Heaton wrote: So we must now ask what was the reason for such a peculiar slope. Why not settle for the cotangent of 2? (26 degrees 34 minutes to the nearest arc minute)
How about this?
G1 height 280
Base 440
Perimeter 1760
Dropping the zeros to obtain 176, 44, 28
360/176 = 45/22
then:
45/22 * 28 = 57 3/11 = radius or height
45/22 * 56 = 114 6/11 = diameter of circle
45/22 * 4
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Mark Heaton wrote: The slope of the Ascending Passage and the width of the Ascending Passage both indicate that the intended width between the benches of the Grand Gallery is 360/2pi digits as the radius of a circle with a circumference of 360 digits.
It could mean that, but let me play the devils advocate here and offere a different perspective. To the Ancient Egyptians it was possibly a sek
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> And what, pray tell, is the seked of a vertical
> wall?
The seked is zero, it is a vertical wall. A wall with a 14 minute angle would be a seked of 3/5156 with a run-rise of 21:5156 or a ratio of 1:245 11/21 digits, palms or cubits which will will give an angle of 0º 14' 1". Like I said not too likely, bu
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Knaga wrote:Saying they did or did not use cotangents is just silly. They used horizontal, vertical and sloping length dimensions to create their slopes.
Do you understand the concept of seked?
Knaga wrote:But what is even more silly is the contention that a 14' lean in some walls is intentional.
It would be unlikely, but not impossible!
Regards,
Jacob
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Byrd wrote: I have a problem with this because I don't see any evidence from later papyri that they knew or used cotangents.
Richard Gillings states in his book 'Mathematics in the Time of the Pharaohs': "The seked of a right pyramid is the inclination of any one of the four triangular faces to the horizontal plane of its base, and is measured as so many horizontal units pe
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