"And the seasons they go round and round,
painted ponies , go up and down,
reflections on the carousel of life.

We can't return we can only look behind from where we came
and go ROUND AND ROUND IN THE CIRCLE GAME.

" “‘Ah, Solon, Solon, you Greeks are ever children. There isn’t an old man among you.’ On hearing this, Solon said, ‘What? What do you mean?’ ‘You are young,’ the old priest replied, ‘young in soul, every one of you. Your souls are devoid of beliefs about antiquity handed down by ancient tradition. Your souls lack any learning made hoary by time.’” (Timaeus 22 b-c)*


If ... Sitchin is correct and some evidence now shows that he might be, the 12th planet would not have the same precessional cycle as us. If there year was 3600 years, which I do not believe, then perhaps what is meant in the ancient king-list is the length of time .... is of a zodiacal cycle. Thus perhaps maybe the 12th planet's journey took 43200 years instead of our 25,920 years.

Here is a list I have made to help all of us get a grip of time. We throw these time-frames around but we really have no concept of how long 15,000 years is or 25,920 years. They really are, to most of us, unfathomable. A list:

2160 + or - End of Pisces and dawning of Aquarius

BC / AD End of Aries The Bull and the beginning of Pisces

2160 BC Start of Aries The Ram, Death of Taurus The Bull and the end of The Old Kingdom

4320 BC - Start of Taurus The Bull , end of Age of Gemini ... the twins ... Romulus and Remus ?

6480 BC - Start of Gemini , The Twins and death of Cancer "

8640 BC - Start of Cancer - Death of The Lion

10,800 BC ... Birth of The Lion Age - death of "The Virgin"

12960 BC - Start of The Age of The Virgin - death of Libra ?

15120 BC - Start of Libra - death of The Scorpion

17280 BC - Birth of The Scorpion - death of Sagittarius .. The Hunter ... end of hunter / gatherer ?

19440 BC - start of Hunter / Gatherers and Sagittarius death of Capricorn

21600 BC - Start of Capricorn - Death of Aquarius ...

23760 BC - Dawning of The Previous Age of Aquarius ...

I found this chart very interesting as I tried to place known events from the past into this time line .

But that is our precessional circle and how the constellations play out for us here on Earth but if there was a 12th Planet then the constellation dates would be quite different for them HOWEVER every 10,800 years they would match. So they matched at the dawning of the Age of The Lion and Gobekli Tepe and interestingly I found they coincided again with "The Birth of Christ" ....

So on The 12th planet we would only be in the age of the twins. Gemini ... upper and lower, above and below ?

But this thread is on Phi and how it relates to our past so let's get to that point.

I think that maybe we have been approaching this problem from the wrong angle. If the Annunaki were real and followed the plan set by Sitchin then their Zodiacal precessional cycle would not be the same as ours. There cycle would probably have been 3600 x 12 or 43,200 years as compared to ours at 25,920 years. or 2160 X 12. Thus our two zodiacal timelines are in the ratio of 5 to 3 . Thus the Dawning of The Age of Leo for us was 5 epochs or zodiacal signs while and for The Annunaki it was only 3. Thus we are in a 5 to 3 ratio with their planet. The Reader might ask what has this got to do with Phi ? Everything for if we divide 5 by 3 we get 1.666666666, no surprise there. We knew that in grade 1. What they didn't teach us is to follow on with the next step and divide by Phi or 1.618034 and we get 0.9708204 for many a meaningless number but not for Little Tommy and those who have been paying attention for this number is, in our 6 = 1.618034 and 1 = 3.708204 drawings is 1 (3.708204) + 6 to give us , yup, 9.708204. So we have discovered that 3/5ths is tantamount to showing Phi .... this will become very important if and when I ever decide to post my paper of The Ark of The Covenant and The Thrones of Egypt. here is a diagram that makes it clear what is happening.



In the above diagram 9.708204 is either 2.618034 or 9.708204 ...

So is that why Phi was so important to ancient man ? Was it because the ratio of our two world's was in The Phi ratio and had early man been promised to be taken up into the heavens and onto the planet where the advanced technology of "God" would return the dead to life. this sure makes an awful lot of sense out of a lot of mumbled and jumbled past beliefs. So "heaven" Is the Annunaki home world and in the past if one of them died they were probably taken up into the "heavens" and onto the planet were they were "resurrected' thus The Ancient Egyptians MUST HAVE BEEN SEEN THIS AND BEEN PROMISED THIS SAME REWARD ! It is the only thing I can think of that would give them an unshakeable belief in life after death.

"There is nothing as impenetrable as a closed mind"
and ..." if everything is a coincidence what is the point of studying or measuring or analyzing anything ?" db