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April 25, 2024, 2:46 pm UTC    
October 20, 2021 02:40PM
An observation on censing and ascending.

The purpose of censing is not to create smoke per se, but a fragrance, and in fact the PT do talk about scent. The fact that hot smoke from burning incence rises, and that the PT are describing the ascension of the king on this smoke, should not be seen as the king actually rising as this smoke, but instead what we are reading could, IMO, be an allusion to Nefertum, the god of fragrances, who was with Ra when he ascended on a lotus from the waters of Nun at his creation. The dead king is also described as a "fresh lotus emerging from a lake" This ties in with the presence of Atum not just protecting the pyramid, which is a personification of the king as Osiris, but it is a re-enactment of the act of creation as the pyramidion represents both Atum and the ben-ben. This is why parts of the PT directly reference Atum creating Shu and Tefnut when ostensibly the PT are funeral rites for a dead king, but they also recreate creation, as that is the nature of resurection, not just "rising from the dead" but in recreating the universe every day.

If the body of the king had been cremated, then this recreation could have happened only once, and the world have come to and end the following day. If the body of just one king were destroyed by fire, and some were during robberies, it is not the end of the world as the bodies of other kings will still exist, but if it was the standard practice to cremate the kings during the Fourth Dynasty, then that's it, their model of how the universe came into being and how it is maintained falls to pieces, it's endex, goodbye and thanks for the fish.

So, how is the universe to be recreated each day, simple, by the king going through this ascension, this recreation, every day, and this can only happen if his body remains in his tomb, for if there is no body in his tomb, then his ba has nothing to "tether" to, the king is unable to re-enter the tomb in order to go through the process again. I believe that inscribing the rituals in the burial chamber were a device to magically ensure that this resurection took place no matter what, as they were not fools and knew that tombs were robbed, but until Unas there were no permanent magical texts to maintain the world, so the king's body really did need to be in his tomb, and that was, until the 18th Dynasty, a pyramid. This also partly solves the issue of "spare" pyramids, for as long as the king were in one of them, no problem, and who knows, maybe these few "spare" pyramids were some sort of backstop, and we know they were very very keen on doubling down on magical protection.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/2021 03:04PM by Corvidius.
Subject Author Posted

Were ancient Egyptian Pyramids used to bury dead kings? (Blog article)

Hermione October 17, 2021 12:19PM

Re: Were ancient Egyptian Pyramids used to bury dead kings? (Blog article)

Roxana Cooper October 18, 2021 09:52PM

Re: Were ancient Egyptian Pyramids used to bury dead kings? (Blog article)

Hermione October 19, 2021 03:52AM

Re: Were ancient Egyptian Pyramids used to bury dead kings? (Blog article)

cladking October 19, 2021 08:08AM

Re: Were ancient Egyptian Pyramids used to bury dead kings? (Blog article)

Hermione October 19, 2021 10:39AM

Re: Were ancient Egyptian Pyramids used to bury dead kings? (Blog article)

Hans October 19, 2021 07:33PM

Re: Were ancient Egyptian Pyramids used to bury dead kings? (Blog article)

cladking October 19, 2021 07:55PM

Yep that's right you cannot read the language

Hans October 19, 2021 08:43PM

Re: Yep that's right you cannot read the language

cladking October 19, 2021 09:35PM

Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 20, 2021 12:20AM

Merer

Hermione October 20, 2021 03:11AM

Re: Merer

Hans October 20, 2021 10:10AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hermione October 20, 2021 03:13AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 20, 2021 08:15AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hermione October 20, 2021 08:36AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 20, 2021 08:48AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hermione October 20, 2021 09:10AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 20, 2021 10:17AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 20, 2021 10:33AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 20, 2021 01:17PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hermione October 20, 2021 02:14PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 20, 2021 04:56PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 20, 2021 08:15PM

You cannot read Ancient Egyptian Cladking

Hans October 20, 2021 10:12PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hermione October 21, 2021 03:37AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 21, 2021 09:49AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 21, 2021 11:39AM

Stop wasting people's time

Hans October 21, 2021 11:59AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time

cladking October 22, 2021 12:12PM

Again no evidence just baseless claims

Hans October 22, 2021 02:36PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hermione October 21, 2021 02:26PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 21, 2021 03:30PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 22, 2021 12:06PM

Show us how Merer wrote the name of the Great Pyramid

Hans October 22, 2021 02:45PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hermione October 22, 2021 04:06PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 22, 2021 04:29PM

Cladking says, 'Egyptolology is wholly wrong about everything'

Hans October 20, 2021 04:54PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 20, 2021 01:09PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 20, 2021 04:57PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 20, 2021 10:14AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 20, 2021 12:59PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hermione October 20, 2021 03:49PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 21, 2021 09:09AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 21, 2021 09:55AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Hans October 20, 2021 05:02PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

Principia October 22, 2021 12:00PM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 22, 2021 12:24PM

Made up stuff - better than evidence!

Hans October 22, 2021 02:52PM

Re: Made up stuff - better than evidence!

cladking October 22, 2021 09:06PM

Poster child or irrational assumption

Hans October 22, 2021 09:36PM

Re: Poster child or irrational assumption

cladking October 22, 2021 10:42PM

Still trying to fake stuff by taking it out of context huh?

Hans October 22, 2021 11:45PM

Re: Still trying to fake stuff by taking it out of context huh?

cladking October 23, 2021 08:41AM

Nope STILL wrong & still ignoring the evidence

Hans October 23, 2021 09:09AM

Re: Still trying to fake stuff by taking it out of context huh?

Byrd October 23, 2021 02:00PM

Re: Still trying to fake stuff by taking it out of context huh?

Hans October 23, 2021 03:08PM

Re: Made up stuff - better than evidence!

Hermione October 23, 2021 03:07AM

Re: Made up stuff - better than evidence!

Hans October 23, 2021 08:56AM

Re: Made up stuff - better than evidence!

cladking October 23, 2021 09:24AM

Going full freak out

Hans October 23, 2021 10:45AM

Re: Going full freak out

Corvidius October 23, 2021 03:59PM

He is a MASTER of making stuff up

Hans October 23, 2021 04:43PM

Re: He is a MASTER of making stuff up

Hans October 23, 2021 08:45PM

Re: Going full freak out

Byrd October 23, 2021 05:09PM

Re: Going full freak out

Corvidius October 23, 2021 05:48PM

Re: Going full freak out

Byrd October 25, 2021 10:36PM

Re: Going full freak out

Corvidius October 26, 2021 04:21AM

Osiris

Hermione October 26, 2021 08:43AM

Re: Going full freak out

cladking October 24, 2021 01:59PM

...and back to lyiing and denying his SHU experiment

Hans October 24, 2021 02:47PM

Re: ...and back to lyiing and denying his SHU experiment

cladking October 24, 2021 04:13PM

More lying and no research of Zipf law being violated - he just made it up

Hans October 24, 2021 06:39PM

Show the research that Zipf's law is broken here

Hans October 24, 2021 06:46PM

616F

Hermione October 25, 2021 03:49AM

**Sub-thread closed**

Hermione October 25, 2021 03:52AM

Re: Stop wasting people's time with your nonsense

cladking October 22, 2021 01:07PM

Cladking You need to apologise to Egyptologist for saying they were wholly wrong about everything hundreds of times

Hans October 22, 2021 02:57PM

An observation on censing, ascending and the pyramid as a tomb

Corvidius October 20, 2021 02:40PM

Re: An observation on censing, ascending and the pyramid as a tomb

cladking October 20, 2021 05:01PM

Cladking wholly wrong again

Hans October 20, 2021 05:05PM

Re: Cladking wholly wrong again

Corvidius October 21, 2021 03:19AM

Re: Cladking wholly wrong again

Hans October 21, 2021 09:57AM

Re: An observation on censing, ascending and the pyramid as a tomb

Corvidius October 21, 2021 03:13AM

Cladking has a degree in ignorance and being painfully wrong

Hans October 21, 2021 10:01AM

Re: Were ancient Egyptian Pyramids used to bury dead kings? (Blog article)

cladking October 24, 2021 04:28PM

Still tombs and you still trying to lie your way into acceptance of your goofy ideas

Hans October 24, 2021 06:43PM



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