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April 25, 2024, 2:10 pm UTC    
April 04, 2021 04:53AM
Ahatmose Wrote:
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> Hi again Corvidius and thanks for the time taken
> to respond.
>
> The math I speak of is the geometry that was used
> by The Ancient Egyptians. You say don't look to
> the length width or columns or their sizes when
> many secrets could be hidden within these
> measurements. you also said this:
>
>
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I do not see this attempt to see a "hidden"
> plan, meaning or whatever in classical temples or
> medieval cathedrals,
Then I am afraid that
> you should look again for hidden (in plain site)
> is the beauty of the mathematics of The Golden
> Mean. It is everywhere and it was brought back
> during The Crusades. Gothic Architecture is as
> close as one will ever get to the true Sacred
> Geometry of Ancient Egypt. But people just won't
> look.
>
> But as you are apt to say sorry for boring you.
> Without studying the width and length of the
> temples (and pyramids) of Egypt your studies will
> forever be incomplete and lacking in a true
> understanding of what they were doing.
>
>
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The other book is "The Temples of Karnak"
> by Schwaller de Lubicz.
I have the two
> volume set of The Temple of Man (1st English
> publication) and he got extremely close but in my
> studied opinion missed quite a bit..
>
> db

Needs more than in the last reply. The medieval cathedral is descended from the Roman basilica, the pointed arches an adaptaion of the rounded arch found in Romanesque cathedrals such as St Albans or Ely, with a mix of styles, and the buttresses an engineering solution to the problem of walls bending outwards under stress. The classical temple, while employing stone columns, which they may well have been taken from Egypt, is not evolved from an Egyptian temple. The rectangular shape has probably evolved from round temples, that were still used well into the classical period, and today. The round shape and columns may themselves have evolved from a "wood henge" type of temple, a sacred space encompassed by trees, as an Egyptian temple has papyrus plants incorporated into it's design, though the Egyptian temple is not enclosed by papyrus plants but by walls representing the waters of Nun, with the core of the temple being the primeval mound, and is perhaps all part of the layering of their temples, the ever smaller spaces thing. Except use of columns, I see no similiarity between the Egyptian temple and the Greek, and by extension via Rome, the Christian temple. You will see columns employed in Japanese temples and shrines, are they from Egypt, or are they a natural building solution.

Do your ideas on the dimensions of Egyptian temples have any impact on the use of the temple, and if so, what is this impact. You single out the temple of Amun-Ra at Karnak. Apart from being the home to the god, the decoration of the temple is primarily devoted to depicting the Opet Festival, the single most important festival in the calender, so, if your ideas, which seem a bit vague, hold true, does the structure of the temple, it's precise dimensions, impact on the Opet festival.

You say you have "The Temple of Man", but do you also have, for a more rounded knowledge, "Karnak - Evolution of a Temple" by Elizabeth Blyth, or "Temple of the World" by Miroslav Verner, or "The Festivals of Opet, the Valley, and the New Year - Their socio-religious functions" by Masashi Fukaya, and there are many others. You'll note that I like quoting book titles, but it's only to get an idea of if a person is concerned only with their own ideas, or fringe ideas, or also reads the in depth studies. Schwaller de Lubicz cannot be read by it's own as a guide to Karnak, though as I pointed out, his photo study is invaluable. It's like using Robert Temple to learn about the Great Sphinx, you get nonsense about Anubis mixed in with some real research and come away with a warped idea about the Sphinx. Yes, I've read Temple's book, and "The Temple of Man" and others, so I do not come from a position of not knowing the thoughts of "alts" and how they come to their conclusions, a pity that far too many "alts" will not read books by Egyptologists, or say that they don't but must otherwise they will know nothing, oh wait...
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Torturing the data

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Time to grow up

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You need a new hobby take up gardening

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Yes he's keeping secret the key to all knowledge but why?

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