ealdred Wrote:
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> Hans:
>
> "How do you explain the 'lack' of Atlantis having
> been destroyed"
>
> The Account is not clear whether only the capital
> city "sank" in floods and quakes, or whether the
> whole large island "sank" in quakes. It also only
> says what happened then, it doesn't say what
> happened after and since, so we can't assume that
> the city and island must have remained and still
> be "sunken". Also the exact nature of the
> "sinking" is not so literally certain because
> different parts of the text and different
> translations say different things like some say it
> sank while others don't but say it was swallowed
> up and/or other descriptions. So people may be
> taking it too overliterally that the island
> "sank/sunk".
> I give strong evidences that the Tiahuanaco city
> and area was in floods and quakes etc, and if the
> whole island sank I also give evidences for how
> South America could have appeared to have "sunk"
> or been swallowed up or other descriptions in
> either crust displacement and/or continental shift
> in my chapter on the sinking of Atlantis
> [www.allempires.com]
> .
>
> "a city that remotely looks like what Plato
> described"
>
> I give alot of evidences that Tiahuanaco had
> concentric rings, and similar size palace/temple,
> and cisterns, and other things Atlantis city had
> in this chapter:
> [www.allempires.com]
> . Bear in mind that Tiahuanaco was flooded and
> shaken in quakes and apparently covered in lava so
> it won't look exactly the same now.
>
> "no sign of a robust naval capacity in SA to allow
> them to invade the Mediterranean"
>
> Firstly the Account implies that they invaded
> Europe and Libya and Asia slowly over a certain
> amount of time, and then they collected their
> forces for a final assault on Egypt and Greece.
> Secondly in my paper/book chapter on the Distance
> of Atlantis I give some evidences for seafaring
> boats in South America, and for greater ancient
> seafaring in general. Some examples include:
> An ocean going ship of exotic design found while
> digging mines on Peruvian coasts.
> The legend of Naymlap tells of the arrival of a
> great fleet of balsa-reed boats (Chimu/Mochica,
> refs Sitchin, Pears).
> 10 ships Paraiba inscription (refs Kolosimo)?
> There are evidences that Tiahaunaco was once a
> great sea port. "Tiwanaku has all the features of
> a harbour". "Sea ports in the Andes" (Velikovsky).
> Peruvians had "sea-worthy rafts" (ref Readers
> Digest 'Vanished Civilisations').
> Chimu (Chan chan) pottery figure of "reed boat"
> titled "life on the ocean wave" (ref Readers
> Digest 'Vanished Civilisations')?
>
> "11,000+ years ago, besides no Athens at that time
> or Egypt for that matter?"
>
> The fact that Athens and Egypt/Sais were not
> around then confirms along with some other
> evidences that the date in the Account is not
> literally really 9000 yrs before Solon or "9500s"
> bc.
> No one has definitely decoded the "9000" yrs date
> but some people agree that the evidences are that
> it is not literally correct. The EGyptians are
> well known for such exagerated code dates like
> 36525 yrs, 17000 yrs & 15000 yrs & 11340 yrs in
> Herodotus.
> One theory which is backed up by quotes from
> CLassical sources is that the Egyptians called
> months years.
> Another is that it is 900 yrs, which might match
> Moeris 900 yrs in Herodotus. Sais 800(0) yrs might
> match Salatis/Salitis/Saites of the Hyksos, and so
> 12th dyn Moeris 900 yrs & 15th dyn Saites 800 yrs
> could then complement each other.
> Atlantis' true date ranges in sources from 9500s
> bc to 1400s bc to 19th/20th dynasty to Persian
> period.
> The date for Tiahuanaco has a similar range in
> sources.
> Peruvian culture is also one of the few oldest
> cultures in the world.
> I haven't yet finished rewriting the chapter on
> Atlantis' Date matching Tiahuanaco.


""Of the combatants on the one side, the city of Athens was reported to have been the leader and to have fought out the war; the combatants on the other side were commanded by the kings of Atlantis, which, as was saying, was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia, and when afterwards sunk by an earthquake, became an impassable barrier of mud to voyagers sailing from hence to any part of the ocean.""

That seems very clear to me. You seem to have gone done the common Atlantis believers pathway in that: 'everything is correct except for the parts I want to change for x reason'.

"" was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia, and when afterwards sunk by an earthquake,"

Okay.............